From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Aug 17 13:40:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA20551 for hackers-outgoing; Sun, 17 Aug 1997 13:40:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sos.freebsd.dk (sos.freebsd.dk [195.8.129.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA20483 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 1997 13:39:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from sos@localhost) by sos.freebsd.dk (8.8.7/8.7.3) id WAA00331; Sun, 17 Aug 1997 22:40:10 +0200 (MEST) From: Søren Schmidt Message-Id: <199708172040.WAA00331@sos.freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: What's the interest in standard tools rewritten in perl? In-Reply-To: <19970817141632.FT54182@uriah.heep.sax.de> from J Wunsch at "Aug 17, 97 02:16:32 pm" To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de Date: Sun, 17 Aug 1997 22:40:10 +0200 (MEST) Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In reply to J Wunsch who wrote: > As Jaye Mathisen wrote: > > > I can always call it something else (newnewsyslog?), but I was > > wondering if FreeBSD Inc would consider utilities that were not > > written in C? > > If the advantages of the prospective rewrite would outweigh the > disadvantages (like slower startup and higher CPU load), there are > usually only objections by the (not very large) ``anti-bloatist > club''. Give us a break, will ya :) > The 80 % accepted opinion of the core team is that new languages, and > scripting languages in particular, might have their right to exist if > they really offer advantage when and where they are used (like easier > code maintenance, much improved features, etc.) We are in the 1990's, > not in the 1970's. But before you're going to rewrite something that > does already exist, look whether it will be justified. I wouldn't bet on that 80% factor, if somebody is going to rewrite the base utils. For one this is a total waste of time (and maybe talent), the other is that it will render us completely incompatible with the rest of the BSD world. I think that nobody would be stupid enough to willingly takeover that kind of maintenance burden... If I want useless bloat (useless meaning just rewrites here), I'll go use Micro$oft's products, that way I can get all the useless bloat I can even imagine... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Søren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team Even more code to hack -- will it ever end ..