From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Dec 26 9:42: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.uniserve.com (mail2.uniserve.com [204.244.156.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03D3F37B417 for ; Wed, 26 Dec 2001 09:42:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.uniserve.com ([204.244.156.10]) by mail2.uniserve.com with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 16JI3w-000Pcf-00; Wed, 26 Dec 2001 09:41:56 -0800 Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 09:41:56 -0800 (PST) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@athena.uniserve.ca To: Wilko Bulte Cc: sthaug@nethelp.no, kjohnso8@columbus.rr.com, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.5 PRERELEASE - Call for testing In-Reply-To: <20011226130814.A13115@freebie.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 26 Dec 2001, Wilko Bulte wrote: ... > > Thus the advice to either use auto-negotiate everywhere, or use manual > > everywhere. One end auto-negotiate and one end manual is a recipe for > > disaster. > > So, that implies that in these cases non-managable switches are doomed > as you cannot 'hard-set' them to some value. Not necessarily. I have an unmanaged Netgear FS308 switch (typical cheap etherswitch), but it supports autonegotiate. When I plug in a FreeBSD box with a fxp card, the lights on the front of the switch show that it has properly negotiated 100/full. The fact is, most ethernet hardware that says it support auto-negotiate, actually does, and it actually works. Auto-negotiation has gotten a reputation for being unreliable because users end up disabling auto on one end and still expect it to work. Auto-negotiation != auto-detection. > -- > | / o / /_ _ email: wilko@FreeBSD.org > |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, The Netherlands > Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message