From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Oct 3 16:59:10 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 930A766AF0F for ; Sun, 3 Oct 2021 16:59:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4d4000686a933.8ec332bbe1ff71bb01a9a3b126eec6a7@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HMqnT2FyDz3j01 for ; Sun, 3 Oct 2021 16:59:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4d4000686a933.8ec332bbe1ff71bb01a9a3b126eec6a7@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1633280349; x=1635872349; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=K5mireU8g6or0YY9Vw+yHhDV3XzQkA1AUmUdk3ajmiI=; b=wJRlPAWJG4oC/wHvjDm+tusOkr8Z/T6NL4/5pF/CKUBulSbX+9iiDXoXy4uzzSXYjTWhc015n4moUEnzeCEvvTxmn0suZFoTOsljWmIuHI5TXdgaGysDk4JzHhM/daMaxmX5kY3x8RXVT+0Jq6guT+c2elK9AqIbfwcF4fnPihc= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi4xZDRkNDAwMDY4NmE5MzMuZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r1.sg.in.socketlabs.com (r1.sg.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.179.11]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Sun, 3 Oct 2021 12:59:02 -0400 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [185.202.17.215]) by r1.sg.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Sun, 3 Oct 2021 12:59:02 -0400 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.94.2 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1mX4pI-000KmH-Ry for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 03 Oct 2021 17:59:00 +0100 Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2021 17:59:00 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrade without Internet access Message-Id: <20211003175900.55d3ed481e14a4f876027836@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <29fc4432-9f33-df5b-7e9a-fce318e426ae@tinka.africa> References: <175e70ff-318b-8380-80ec-cf3b98b6073a@tundraware.com> <29fc4432-9f33-df5b-7e9a-fce318e426ae@tinka.africa> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.33; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.1) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HMqnT2FyDz3j01 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=email-od.com header.s=dkim header.b=wJRlPAWJ; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of 4250.82.1d4d4000686a933.8ec332bbe1ff71bb01a9a3b126eec6a7@email-od.com designates 142.0.176.198 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=4250.82.1d4d4000686a933.8ec332bbe1ff71bb01a9a3b126eec6a7@email-od.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.70 / 15.00]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[email-od.com:s=dkim]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sohara.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:142.0.176.0/20]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[email-od.com:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[steve@sohara.org,4250.82.1d4d4000686a933.8ec332bbe1ff71bb01a9a3b126eec6a7@email-od.com]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[142.0.176.198:from]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7381, ipnet:142.0.176.0/22, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.82.1d4d4000686a933.8ec332bbe1ff71bb01a9a3b126eec6a7@email-od.com]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[email-od.com:dkim] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2021 16:59:10 -0000 On Sun, 3 Oct 2021 17:23:59 +0200 Mark Tinka wrote: > This was the old way of doing it. > > When I got on to FreeBSD, we'd moved on to "freebsd-update" :-). But I > recall many painful memories of mates going toe-to-toe with "make world". > I'm not into the binary package management for FreeBSD. I'm old skool; I > prefer managing Ports. Interesting contrast that ;) I use packages and freebsd-update having started with source and ports back in the 1.1 days and gone through the coff/elf switch. The convenience and reliability of both of the binary approaches is a delight compared to some of the nightmares I've encountered over the years. > That said, I'm not sure I've ever heard anyone running the binary > packages without Internet. It can be done, you can download the packages to a local repository or use poudriere to maintain your own package repository custom built from ports with your favourite options. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith