From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Feb 5 20:50:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA06444 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 20:50:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from dg-rtp.dg.com (dg-rtp.rtp.dg.com [128.222.1.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA06424 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 20:50:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by dg-rtp.dg.com (5.4R3.10/dg-rtp-v02) id AA29768; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 23:50:07 -0500 Received: from ponds by dg-rtp.dg.com.rtp.dg.com; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 23:50 EST Received: from lakes.water.net (lakes [10.0.0.3]) by ponds.water.net (8.8.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA01887; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 23:31:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from rivers@localhost) by lakes.water.net (8.8.3/8.6.9) id XAA26215; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 23:35:54 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 23:35:54 -0500 (EST) From: Thomas David Rivers Message-Id: <199702060435.XAA26215@lakes.water.net> To: ponds!freefall.cdrom.com!freebsd-hackers, ponds!xinside.com!patrick, ponds!lambert.org!terry Subject: Re: [Fwd: freebsd performance.] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > The basic idea for the equivalence proof is that: > > > > 1) All DFAs are NFAs (of course) > > 2) Any NFA can be represented as a DFA where the states of > > the DFA tuples of the states of the NFA. [Think about > > how you would write an NFA simulator; you'd have N > > possible states moving from transition to transition.] > > > > So, DFA <-> NFA. > > Cheater... "non-finite" != "infinite" in this definition. > > BTW: The "machine translation of natural languages" question was asked > tongue-in-cheek... I suppose I need to add "8-)"'s. 8-(. > > > Terry Lambert Err, umm, in the context of regular expressions; (recall the original discussion was the speed of regex vs. pearl): NFA is Non-deterministic _Finite_ Automata DFA is Deterministic _Finite_ Automata Determinism is quite a different idea from finite/infinite. We haven't crossed over into the "infinite" yet :-) It's rather interesting to banty around the idea infinite automata, and possible ramifications on a G.O.D. (General Omniscient Device), much less our own existence; especially over some beer :-) - Dave Rivers -