From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 7 10:00:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 501DF15A for ; Tue, 7 May 2013 10:00:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamy023@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-x230.google.com (mail-ie0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::230]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26881D0E for ; Tue, 7 May 2013 10:00:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f176.google.com with SMTP id at1so553316iec.7 for ; Tue, 07 May 2013 03:00:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=zXUtTUw4BwfZHPjxa+WdAl+jHk+9bq8qLEh2ErkOJm0=; b=ZrVjLThNT/hqeYagP/jm1Zrkz7wwXMWihBDWqXKnomZLuQqZdhmY9gobk0c3DiGOfv kU8M47v1AI2sRVpJ/l4V2K0OBqE3+Ldmpb4bolLZW85G+Jme0YKuSG7yXThkT/Kj163S iLwA9NDLg22W6j/wreYNFknXR/8iUro+PdrkMFHuAyRYNftwhWH9+Rr7awlHQLeDaG7N UfCYUN12DZ/MmDn0sNeM4OliW7Bs/4BC8iJhjmG+GrMdGepNw1HNRRZemZ2XFEEmTz/e ct8sX8yFu4kkKE3M9EGx5Ka0UetS8gpecbnmPu4KLCKzK2OgPmF3S6MKwIK/6z0RBhqp vlFg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.13.42 with SMTP id e10mr236845igc.69.1367920805852; Tue, 07 May 2013 03:00:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.115.7 with HTTP; Tue, 7 May 2013 03:00:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <6f8f042d2c194e1d18668ce2fa36a9e7@ethernull.org> References: <53471.1367887450@server1.tristatelogic.com> <5188C489.3040808@dumbbell.fr> <6f8f042d2c194e1d18668ce2fa36a9e7@ethernull.org> Date: Tue, 7 May 2013 13:00:05 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Status of ATI video acceleration support? From: Sergey Jamy To: archibald Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 May 2013 10:00:06 -0000 2013/5/7 archibald > Radeon X.org means that radeon driver that works with X.org. Essentially > the radeon driver no longer supports UMS (user modesetting), and only > supports KMS. Consequently, to use up to date versions of the radeon > driver, FreeBSD must have kernel modesetting for AMD cards. AMD has no > official support for FreeBSD. > Fix: X.Org working on driver pimitives. So why can cheat new X.Org, as we cheat linux apps throw linux emulation layer. > Nothing is preventing the FreeBSD project from writing their own radeon > driver, but given the amount of code that would need to be written (and the > lack of developers working on FreeBSD compared to Linux), it's much easier > to port the Linux code than write it all from scratch. > Why from scratch? Let's do fork of ums code (and forexamle call him ums-ng) and piecemeal upgrade him to functionality of kms. I am sure that there will be supporters of my ideas. People must have choice ums vs kms like as linux vs freebsd!