From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 19 12:15:31 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6B0475F3 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 12:15:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 142D2C61 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 12:15:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-149-162.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.149.162]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CC1663CE53; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 13:15:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t1JCFRVu002221; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 13:15:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 13:15:27 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Ralf Mardorf Subject: Re: What's in my hard drive? How can I get rid of it? Message-Id: <20150219131527.ddda246b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20150218203703.5d260b53@archlinux> References: <54E39F83.70002@gmail.com> <54E3BEBA.1060801@gmail.com> <20150218183222.2d09d17f.freebsd@edvax.de> <20150218185708.47f7f805@archlinux> <20150218183815.GB26575@neutralgood.org> <20150218203703.5d260b53@archlinux> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 12:15:31 -0000 On Wed, 18 Feb 2015 20:37:03 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > RFIDs can't directly control our minds, but it's too funny, a RFID > could be everywhere in our closes, soles etc. and we wouldn't notice > it. Unless we use proper testing equipment and a microwave oven. :-) > I'm one of those who don't need a mobile. I simply mean it word > by word, "I don't need it" and that's the reason that I don't carry a > mobile wherever I am. However, I'm aware that in my pocket are several > cards with RFID, so theoretically it's possible to follow ever step I > make in the same way, as it is possible to spy people who carry a > handy 24/7. Because it is possible, it HAS BEEN DONE. Allow me to provide you with one example (not new): http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11/21/schoolgirl_expelled_rfid_chip/ http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/11/student-suspension/ But it's not that RFID is "evil" per se, or useless. As someone said, it's a tool, and a tool does what its master (in whose hands it becomes "alive") decides: http://www.extremetech.com/electronics/141277-stop-worrying-and-embrace-rfid Like this: http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/12/citywide-rfid-master-house-key-already-broken/ It's not even funny anymore. > Indirectly this information could be used to have > impact to everybody, you and me. Consider side effects, not just with RFID, but with almost every other technology. You don't carry a smartphone. But the guy next to you does, and it's a bug which is now in his pocket while you sit at the conference table and discuss a confidential deal. Maybe you have an old phone with no camera. But the woman across the street has, and while she takes a photo of a nearby fountain, your face + her location are being uploaded to the cloud for further processing. You cannot be "safe" (whatever you want to understand by that word). By NO means. No matter what you do, it's impossible > The most dangerous isn't collecting data, aren't RFIDs etc., the most > dangerous is that in school they still teach by the left brain/verbal > approach, while we are living in a medial/right brain/visually world. Except maybe the visually challenged people (vision impaired or blind)... > Less people are educated to handle multimedia in a reflective way. People are educated to _not_ reflect about anything. > Western education just teaches how to use multimedia software, not to > think about the consequences. Use in order to consume, in the first place. Every creational act is left to "artists", but luckily, modern computers and the Internet enable more people to be creative and share their works, so there is hope for a better understanding (as long, of course, as those creations don't drown in the sea of irrelevance). > I don't fear Trojans and similar, I fear unenlightened societies. Try to ignore and forget them, or they'll scare you to death. ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...