From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Sep 6 07:48:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA16168 for hackers-outgoing; Sat, 6 Sep 1997 07:48:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kalypso.cybercom.net (kalypso.cybercom.net [209.21.136.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA16160 for ; Sat, 6 Sep 1997 07:48:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atlanta (mfd-dial1-10.cybercom.net [209.21.137.10]) by kalypso.cybercom.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA16334 for ; Sat, 6 Sep 1997 10:47:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19970906103209.009d3320@cybercom.net> X-Sender: ksmm@cybercom.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Sat, 06 Sep 1997 10:32:09 -0400 To: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG From: The Classiest Man Alive Subject: Re: A quick note to those without DNS resolvable mail hosts. In-Reply-To: <19970906112341.62007@lemis.com> References: <26041.873509860@time.cdrom.com> <26041.873509860@time.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 11:23 AM 9/6/97 +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: >On Fri, Sep 05, 1997 at 06:37:40PM -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: >> Reply-to: postmaster@freebsd.org >> >> In order to combat the absolute flood of spam which has been coming >> into my mailbox lately, I've gone to more aggressive sendmail filtering >> >> ... >> >> If you're sending mail from a machine with no valid DNS entry then I >> have another one word answer for you: Don't. By doing so, you're only > >I do see one big problem, >though: FreeBSD-questions. A lot of the people out there either are >complete newcomers to FreeBSD, or they lack the experience and >understanding to comply with the new requirements. A lot of them are >AOL. By implementing these measures, you may not kill -questions, but >you'd certainly significantly reduce (maybe by up to half) the volume, >and you would do even more harm to people who are interested and are >just looking in. I agree with this point. Will users get some explanation of why their mail was bounced, or will it just float off into nullspace? And what of users who are subscribed to the list? Will they suddenly be able to receive mail from the list but not send to it? How do you even unsubscribe in that case? I read my e-mail on Windows, so I don't know from MX records and bogus usernames. I filled out a rather simple set of forms in Eudora and dialed my ISP; not a lot of room for such extensive filtering. I'm not even sure what my domain name is after it gets through my ISP. I like to stay on lists like hackers because it lets me learn by eavesdropping on more knowledgable users. (Not to mention the occasional amusement value.) I hope that the effort to block spammers doesn't hurt too many of us legitimate but less-knowledgable users as well. K.S.