From owner-freebsd-current Sun Sep 26 10: 6:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from noop.colo.erols.net (noop.colo.erols.net [207.96.1.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 242481523A for ; Sun, 26 Sep 1999 10:06:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gjp@noop.colo.erols.net) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=noop.colo.erols.net) by noop.colo.erols.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11VHll-000Ge0-00; Sun, 26 Sep 1999 13:07:25 -0400 To: Brian Somers Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: On hub.freebsd.org refusing to talk to dialups In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 26 Sep 1999 11:52:35 BST." <199909261052.LAA23749@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org> Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 13:07:25 -0400 Message-ID: <63983.938365645@noop.colo.erols.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Brian Somers wrote in message ID <199909261052.LAA23749@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org>: > I think it's up to the ISP what default policies they have, and I > also think that this sort of policy is a good default... but only as > long as the ISP allows exceptions. As a paying subscriber with a > clean record I *must* be allowed to ask for a hole through your > firewall. No, actually, there is absolutely nothing which says that you, as a subscriber of good standing, *have* to be allowed to connect to non-local port 25. I think it is perfectly reasonable that the ISP require that you buy a static IP (with N months initially prepaid) or something to get port 25 privs. If you want to go after the real source of the problem, then lobby your local government to make spammers pay for the damage they do. Otherwise the `freedom' of the old internet will be worn away because ISPs will have to protect themselves more and more. Anyhow, this is completely offtopic ... mail me in private if you want to continue :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message