From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 13 06:28:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 765CD16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2005 06:28:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sarajevo.pacific.net.sg (sarajevo.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.134]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4620943D41 for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2005 06:28:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: (qmail 14120 invoked from network); 13 Feb 2005 06:28:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO maxwell6.pacific.net.sg) (203.120.90.212) by sarajevo with SMTP; 13 Feb 2005 06:28:53 -0000 Received: from [192.168.0.109] ([210.24.124.198]) by maxwell6.pacific.net.sg with ESMTP <20050213062852.DAXA1233.maxwell6.pacific.net.sg@[192.168.0.109]>; Sun, 13 Feb 2005 14:28:52 +0800 Message-ID: <420EF423.7020609@pacific.net.sg> Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 14:30:59 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky Organization: oceanare pte ltd User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Paul A. Hoadley" References: <20050213004204.GA91920@xor.obsecurity.org> <20050213021055.69766.qmail@web53901.mail.yahoo.com> <20050213022605.GA24426@xor.obsecurity.org> <420ED112.80401@pacific.net.sg> <420EDF52.1090408@nbritton.org> <420EE518.9070605@pacific.net.sg> <20050213055831.GB8532@grover.logicsquad.net> In-Reply-To: <20050213055831.GB8532@grover.logicsquad.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The only worthwhile logo-related comments so far.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 06:28:56 -0000 Hi, Paul A. Hoadley wrote: > On Sun, Feb 13, 2005 at 01:26:48PM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > >>No matter what FreeBSD will do, companies will not accept FreeBSD >>more as long as this structure stays like this. > > > What makes you draw this conclusion? > > My experience with companies here in south-east Asia and in Germany. If a company did not use FreeBSD anyway, FreeBSD was finally block-off with this reasoning. I never have had to go into the discussion regarding logos or names, it was just about the supporting structure behind. Erich