From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 25 15:53:01 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6EA1106564A for ; Thu, 25 Aug 2011 15:53:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ey0-f172.google.com (mail-ey0-f172.google.com [209.85.215.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 820818FC0C for ; Thu, 25 Aug 2011 15:53:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eye4 with SMTP id 4so1559223eye.31 for ; Thu, 25 Aug 2011 08:53:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=XmXd81QJQvWq3Ut9NDEyOjaNf/3jedDBwSV5/O+E44c=; b=tWY5ujLtrWnx8sX+HdpxrRiSswEPKNXpnMIWOM5CC4MZGX39Z/NRF1E65WeKcbAOdy lxkQ4KmjR1w1/ehDe6OQbc6gXVk8XbHo5bJAL4WDUT87hbBD7vriUhZG7XCq/lq0jIlh kMkxsN/zUMAD/APtUioSyv+OeVfIQ8Fafqh/8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.136.18 with SMTP id j18mr3548561wfd.284.1314287579690; Thu, 25 Aug 2011 08:52:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.66.106 with HTTP; Thu, 25 Aug 2011 08:52:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 15:52:59 +0000 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, George Neville-Neil , "Bjoern A. Zeeb" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Subject: Re: Updating our TCP and socket sysctl values... X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bf1783@gmail.com List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 15:53:02 -0000 > >> I believe it's time to up these values to something that's in line with higher speed > >> local networks, such as 10G. Perhaps it's time to move these to 2MB instead of 256K. > >> > >> Thoughts? > > > > > > This never happened, did it? Was there a reason? > > > > I went back and looked at the mail thread. I didn't see any strong objections > so I think you should commit this for 9.x. > > np@ did point out that nmbclusters also lags on modern hardware so consider upping > that at the same time. I thought Bruce's observation, in: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-arch/2011-March/011193.html that: "...there is an mostly-unrelated bufferbloat problem that is purely local. If you have a buffer that is larger than an Ln cache (or about half than), then actually using just a single buffer of that size guarantees thrashing of the Ln cache, so that almost every memory access is an Ln cache miss. Even with current hardware, a buffer of size 256K will thrash most L1 caches and a buffer of size a few MB will thrash most L2 caches." , and his suggestion for some sort of auto-tuning, deserve consideration. Are you going to address this problem (at least the L2 and higher cache thrashing), or give some suggestions for tuning in UPDATING and the relevant manpages? b.