From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 11 5:17: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from clmboh1-smtp3.columbus.rr.com (clmboh1-smtp3.columbus.rr.com [65.24.0.112]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A22E337B406 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 05:17:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wmoran@iowna.com) Received: from iowna.com (dhcp065-024-023-038.columbus.rr.com [65.24.23.38]) by clmboh1-smtp3.columbus.rr.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f6BCDQZ18670; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 08:13:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3B4C43A2.85516A24@iowna.com> Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 08:16:34 -0400 From: Bill Moran X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wes Peters Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD Mall now BSDCentral References: <200107100332.UAA13663@usr01.primenet.com> <3B4B0856.A67F02FD@iowna.com> <3B4B3866.FBFF9A65@mindspring.com> <3B4B420C.1947DABE@iowna.com> <3B4C084E.2A14655A@softweyr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Wes Peters wrote: > Just because you don't see it doesn't make it a bad idea. Network admins > begged for years for a centralized IP address space management server; > now that they've been given one (that works, and is FREE) people like you > bitch about it and won't use it. Feh. Are you saying you use DHCP for servers? If so, maybe I should shut up and listen for a while because apparently there's something here I can learn. I've been using it for client IP pools for years now, but not for servers. > > and FreeBSD is primarily a server OS > > Sez who? OK, that was a bad statement to make. I made an assumption there which may be terribly incorrect and is based only on my customer base. (which involves 9 FreeBSD servers and only one desktop machine - mine) That is (admittedly) a painfully small sampling and I have never seen any survey to back that statement. I'll consent that it was unfounded. > For what it's worth, my DoBox now does an automatic DHCP with a short time- > out, and if it doesn't get a least on the DSL or CableModem uplink, tries > a PPPoE lease. If that fails as well, THEN it asks the user what to do, > because it has exhausted it's limited supply of knowlege about how to > automatically configure the uplink. That, my friends, is the correct way > to do it: try everything you reasonably can, then and only then pester the > user if none of the default(s) worked. Well, the only place I dislike this is a server. Since many (most?) servers will be able to get DHCP addys, but the admin would rather them have a static IP. However, my original whine about DHCP was based on the assumption that most FreeBSD machines are servers and since I have to admit that I can't back that statement up, I'll have to admit that I really don't have much experience in how much demand there is for automatic network config during install time. The only statement I can accurately make is: "_I_ would like to have the option to NOT use DHCP at install time." -Bill -- If a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush, then what can I get for two hands in the bush? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message