From nobody Sun Apr 17 21:12:50 2022 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7044E7EFCF4 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2022 21:13:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from curmudgeon@telaman.net.au) Received: from actcsvr17.gohosting.com.au (actcsvr17.gohosting.com.au [103.11.147.83]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4KhN7z56hqz3R42 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2022 21:13:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from curmudgeon@telaman.net.au) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=telaman.net.au; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type: MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date:Sender: Reply-To:Cc:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From: Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help: List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=i2r3MJwmE0001FprobFvrIiselryhGio/tEAg+wmL9E=; b=r3QgnFiwEjltOZQ6KA5lWh61pp D47OncIS43M42vUUWV3ns4rSzMA0+oQUJU1EUd4eRNaI+UvmaL4JQF71qLoMcjcpEBXsKdL2imR4U /Ic/3gEJmsLIH5y014LIlh3DEonmNSFStl/FDN0RyAAtaAaGYapGkbL6+RQWBYgVvKJhIEDPkC/qK X2EE9xkbo3bfvSAUjD51FsqtvcF9PoJnGrvJszalTLc/+fAbEkWEwwfPHw6gR3ipdZEoXKFQT50WN n7sAl41gw2XYGntrjdIYn0eiQbiIYEUb9agjEkRQMUi+MD7JJ9t65x+d60D6yqg1IeOQGE6W1t7ps 9cjfhMiw==; Received: from 116-250-233-13.pool.activ8me.net.au ([116.250.233.13]:50636 helo=Base.telaman.net.au) by actcsvr17.gohosting.com.au with esmtpsa (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.95) (envelope-from ) id 1ngCCS-0003eM-Jo for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 18 Apr 2022 07:12:53 +1000 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2022 07:12:50 +1000 From: David To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Regarding the new work on the documentation Message-ID: <20220418071250.0dc5d9e5.curmudgeon@telaman.net.au> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 4.0.0 (GTK+ 3.24.33; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - actcsvr17.gohosting.com.au X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - telaman.net.au X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: actcsvr17.gohosting.com.au: authenticated_id: curmudgeon@telaman.net.au X-Authenticated-Sender: actcsvr17.gohosting.com.au: curmudgeon@telaman.net.au X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4KhN7z56hqz3R42 X-Spamd-Bar: ++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=telaman.net.au header.s=default header.b=r3QgnFiw; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of curmudgeon@telaman.net.au designates 103.11.147.83 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=curmudgeon@telaman.net.au X-Spamd-Result: default: False [2.53 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[telaman.net.au:s=default]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; HAS_X_SOURCE(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[telaman.net.au]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(1.00)[0.997]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:103.11.147.83]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[telaman.net.au:+]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.07)[0.073]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; HAS_X_GMSV(0.00)[curmudgeon@telaman.net.au]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions]; HAS_X_ANTIABUSE(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.96)[0.958]; ASN(0.00)[asn:9290, ipnet:103.11.144.0/22, country:AU]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; HAS_X_AS(0.00)[curmudgeon@telaman.net.au] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Sun, 17 Apr 2022 18:21:27 +0200 (CEST) iio7@tutanota.com wrote: > I don't understand why it takes FreeBSD so long to understand that the > FreeBSD handbook and the way it is setup is a really BAD idea. Probably because it's not. > Learn from the success of other projects, like the Arch Linux wiki. Nothing > beats that. > > Make it easy for users to participate. I don't see how it's difficult for users to participate now. > We don't need 100 different formats, PDF, EPUB, and all the other crap. No > body cares about that. But even when it is, converting HTML is very easy, > it's just a matter of printing. The format which suits one, doesn't necessarily suit others. Are you aware of which formats are preferred in the file managers everybody sets for themselves? Are they reading via a .pdf viewer, an EPub reader, online because they have little disc space to spare, because they don't have a printer (unless they print to .pdf), or any number of other potentials? > Clone the Arch approach and everything will change for the better. I really don't see what's so terminal about it now. But, to each their own, if you prefer the wiki aspect, why not start one? The software is available. Cheers!