From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 24 16:22:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93A9116A404 for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2008 16:22:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yanefbsd@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 522BF13C465 for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2008 16:22:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yanefbsd@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 25so713667wfa.7 for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2008 08:22:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:cc:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=XQ6MT6gGiNaomYQjZX6/kZLtz4JECzmuCDakwZ0FR6Y=; b=pIMjMHVGBrgrwXCq9mvyQMMAcgytt4fEA0JlgsJVodf8kQyZbTxfZqaFKZpYev/c01kC8GdsK123bQtatULYOh4oTMx4OWeZG3ofBuGCw9V0tg/FwvYxPw3Y3X2aKVdyXpzYi1mAfFQ0YW/vPQAMKTdnegQnp856TDf070AS6LE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=cc:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references:x-mailer; b=p2xnsJGEAY2zh1i3buNcVkj3fpt/G95zlW88Vz3Ekt3k7ISVxUS5Jl4qKj5CK4ELlcFgFpH+s8fsWntqviASUwHoEmRCJexCA/0WZXzxJZ0oM+LZWK61tOQ/mYiL45hyGdKG5EhUcrzp7iTGKrP1AQEK7P/O/5yrRxQiJ4ISY1I= Received: by 10.142.216.9 with SMTP id o9mr1248744wfg.226.1203868503658; Sun, 24 Feb 2008 07:55:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?10.2.0.131? ( [67.96.45.122]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 20sm6949913wfi.14.2008.02.24.07.55.01 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 24 Feb 2008 07:55:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <73945518-70B0-415C-87B4-F014F1309DF6@gmail.com> From: Garrett Cooper To: Adrian Chadd In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 07:56:12 -0800 References: <20080219104532.0dc2b565@chaos.nox> <47BDB92C.9050808@d80.iso100.no> <20080222113646.2dbb9ec1@chaos.nox> <86zlttqmc9.fsf@ds4.des.no> <1203686245.63435.12.camel@RabbitsDen> <86oda9oxxe.fsf@ds4.des.no> <1203692492.63435.16.camel@RabbitsDen> <86ablsabd0.fsf@ds4.des.no> <47C00F20.2090700@d80.iso100.no> <1203846877.7104.17.camel@localhost> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) Cc: freebsd-current , Mikael Ikivesi Subject: Re: 2 core dumps X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 16:22:06 -0000 On Feb 24, 2008, at 4:55 AM, Adrian Chadd wrote: > I'd suggest that you graph the whatever temperatures your laptop can > report under both FreeBSD and Linux. > > Laptops do get warm - especially if people do dumb things like > restrict airflow to where its needed - but if its getting too warm to > use then something's amiss. > > Powerd and friends job isn't to prevent the CPU from overheating, its > to step the CPU down a notch when its not being asked to do intensive > tasks. If your laptop can't sustain intensive tasks without crashing > then there's a fault in the laptop, either the design or your specific > unit. > > Graph the temperatures and see if the laptop runs noticably warmer > under FreeBSD than Linux. You might just find that "more work" is > being done under FreeBSD and its causing your hardware to fail. > > The backtraces are useless if your hardware is at fault. Discount the > hardware being at fault first. > > 2c, > > > adrian > (Who gave up trying to make this crap work on PCs and just bought an > iBook..) Yeah, well the thing is too that many OS'es will work your hardware differently. Solaris for example will work your hardware a lot more than Linux / FreeBSD. Cheers, -Garrett