From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 18 9:15:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68AC737B416 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2002 09:15:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org ([12.233.149.189]) by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020418161512.RPYJ12144.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@bmah.dyndns.org>; Thu, 18 Apr 2002 16:15:12 +0000 Received: from intruder.bmah.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g3IGF9Nk012099; Thu, 18 Apr 2002 09:15:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@intruder.bmah.org) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by intruder.bmah.org (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g3IGF8eF012098; Thu, 18 Apr 2002 09:15:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200204181615.g3IGF8eF012098@intruder.bmah.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5+ 20020416 with nmh-1.0.4 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Lawrence Mayer dsg Subject: Re: site down? releng4.freebsd.org In-reply-to: <20020418112733.A9174@freno.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <20020418112733.A9174@freno.cs.tu-berlin.de> Comments: In-reply-to Wolfram Schneider message dated "Thu, 18 Apr 2002 11:27:34 +0200." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 09:15:08 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG If memory serves me right, Wolfram Schneider wrote: > > 1. Has the site been down? It's undergoing a hardware upgrade, last I heard. > > 5. If there are no mirrors, would it be possible to recruit one? Another part of the FreeBSD Project also generates -STABLE snapshots: http://snapshots.jp.freebsd.org/ > The > > situation is particularly accute right now, since > > > > "......A bug has been fixed in soft updates that can cause occasional > > filesystem corruption if the system is shut down immediately after > > performing heavy filesystem activities, such as installing a new kernel or > > other software. The system shutdown was unable to flush all buffers on > > shutdown and would report this fact. The problem can be worked around by > > running sync(8) a few times before rebooting, or solved by updating to a > > recent FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE snapshot........" > > (2002/03/19 posted to www.freebsd.org/releases/4.5R/errata.html) > > > > In my reading, the above quote recommends that 4.5 RELEASE users upgrade > > to STABLE instead of waiting for the next RELEASE to come out. It would > > be most unfortunate if releng4.freebsd.org is down, and there are no > > mirrors, just now when we need it the most! I think the situation is not as dire as you believe it is. If you read the errata carefully, it also lists a workaround that does not require an update to 4-STABLE. The text above was originally written by Matt Dillon and edited by myself; I'm pretty sure that Matt didn't intend this as a recommendation for everyone to run 4-STABLE. I sure don't interpret this as such. > > A mirror site would also be an investment not only in the present but in > > the future. It may happen again that a serious bug is found in a FreeBSD > > RELEASE. If so, it would be a clear advantage if there is more than one > > site in the world hosting recent shopshots of FreeBSD STABLE. > > > > I would greatly appreciate a reply ASAP. I am anxious to install FreeBSD. > > But, in view of the above quote, I'm waiting to get my hands on FreeBSD > > STABLE. Hmmm. Despite its name, 4-STABLE is still a branch in development. I personally don't recommend running it unless you're willing to track its development by reading the freebsd-stable@ mailing list, and you have a little experience with running and administering FreeBSD machines already. If you're a new FreeBSD user, I'd advise you to run 4.5-RELEASE (being careful to read the errata document, which you have already done, to see what outstanding issues may affect you). Once you've got a little experience with FreeBSD, you can make an informed decision as to whether or not running 4-STABLE is right for you at any given point in time. Good luck! Bruce. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message