From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 31 10:06:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F10A106566C for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 10:06:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller23@insightbb.com) Received: from mail.insightbb.com (smtp1.insight.synacor.com [208.47.185.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6F0B8FC14 for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 10:06:31 +0000 (UTC) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=IVbPvqwAxPkRr6PzoduHLWkDTVaZ1Lo9Awwa23TM284= c=1 sm=0 a=7-V2bO-0qoEA:10 a=jLN7EqiLvroA:10 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=WSiaf9ioEmgodg1RIUcA:9 a=fLvcGj-fbr8A:10 a=SV7veod9ZcQA:10 a=Q/oqmR4JO1zR3vNQamCQeQ==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.insight.synacor.com header.from=mueller23@insightbb.com; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: smtp01.insight.synacor.com smtp.mail=mueller23@insightbb.com; spf=softfail; sender-id=softfail Received-SPF: softfail (smtp01.insight.synacor.com: transitional domain insightbb.com does not designate 74.134.26.53 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.134.26.53] ([74.134.26.53:52092] helo=localhost) by mail.insightbb.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.40 r(29895/29896)) with ESMTP id AC/96-19031-0A247CF4; Thu, 31 May 2012 06:06:25 -0400 Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 06:06:24 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Matthew Seaman Subject: Re: Address to reach human operator regarding problems with list? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 10:06:32 -0000 > freebsd-questions-owner@... is correct, except that to my knowledge > there isn't really a moderator for freebsd-questions (it's an open list > that anyone can post to without having to be a member) and that address > ultimately gets dealt with by postmaster@freebsd.org. > The message you got about "held for moderation" is standard boiler-plate > from mailman, and probably not appropriate for your specific circumstances. > On the whole though, you shouldn't need to contact anyone about the > warning you received. It generally occurs when your mail system > rejects messages from the freebsd-questions@... list as spam. As there > is a certain amount of spam that does appear on the list, this is an > absolutely legitimate practice: trouble is, it's hard for the FreeBSD > mail system to distinguish deliberate non-acceptance of spam from > accidental non-acceptance of traffic due to a broken mailer. > Mailman has an adaptive system that scores you based on how many rejects > you generate in a certain time period. If you log into mailman at eg. > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-questions > you can see your current score. Mine is currently 2.0 (out of 5.0) and > has been about that for quite some time. So long as your score is not > too large, I wouldn't worry about the message you received. Even if > your score does go over the threshold, you can just use that same > interface to re-enable delivery. > Cheers, > Matthew > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. I contacted my Internet service provider, Insight Cable, about the problem, and they need a copy of any message that bounces, so they can see what went awry. So I can't just ignore the problem. Maybe I should resend the message to postmaster@freebsd.org instead of freebsd-questions-owner@freebsd.org? This problem relates to FreeBSD emailing lists in general, not just one list such as questions@ . Now I see at http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo , If you are having trouble using the lists, please contact mailman@freebsd.org. There was also a line in the probe message : For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster. So now the choice is between mailman@freebsd.org and postmaster@freebsd.org ; I sent to mailman. Tom