From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 1 11:56:36 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B1C516A42F for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2005 11:56:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmitry.mityugov@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABB0A43D48 for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2005 11:56:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmitry.mityugov@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i4so986058wra for ; Mon, 01 Aug 2005 04:56:35 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=DduXM3RZ0JslIfifVe3Gd5FpUh+T3fgm3hAxcvmP7rHRwxl0XK4aZGYADXakSRdIaww2ggc54BZ8sQaSr/sLUhMarL6YdNMHs1RpUl21EYmYOtdtSBZt4ZfqfUcwFN0U7vaHBz2hlCbrEFYvZpclId3o7IlQbjVjswHA4lIUi7U= Received: by 10.54.54.39 with SMTP id c39mr2605568wra; Mon, 01 Aug 2005 04:56:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.56.33 with HTTP; Mon, 1 Aug 2005 04:56:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 15:56:34 +0400 From: Dmitry Mityugov To: "ray@redshift.com" In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.20050801043607.00a5aeb0@pop.redshift.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <3.0.1.32.20050801043607.00a5aeb0@pop.redshift.com> Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD desktop? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Dmitry Mityugov List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 11:56:36 -0000 On 8/1/05, ray@redshift.com wrote: > Maybe someone on the hackers or x11 list can help me get going the righ= t > direction here. I can setup FreeBSD servers like the wind - tweak the ke= rnel, > you name it. So this weekend I tried to install FreeBSD 5.4 on my deskto= p - > what a mess. I never could get anything to run, other than startx or xst= art or > something. I ended up once with a blank desktop (I think I typed X) and = another > time with the same desktop, but with 3 open windows. Anyway, I finally g= ave up. >=20 > Anyone have any run down on loading FreeBSD as your desktop? I am tryi= ng to > go with FreeBSD because I use it for my servers, but I feel like I'm lack= ing a > broad understanding of how Unix handles windows. I get the impression th= ere is > a server that deals with windows called X windows and then there are diff= erent > desktop managers (such as KDE, Gnome, etc) - but I don't understand the > interplay between them and the Kernel as it relates to how I normally see= FreeBSD. >=20 > I'm wondering if someone can give me an overview? ... Chapter 5 in the Handbook, The X Window System, is probably what you're looking for: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11.html --=20 Dmitry Mityugov, St. Petersburg, Russia I ignore all messages with confidentiality statements "We live less by imagination than despite it" - Rockwell Kent, "N by E"