From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Thu Jan 3 20:00:31 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E60E14356A8 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2019 20:00:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mozolevsky@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oi1-f174.google.com (mail-oi1-f174.google.com [209.85.167.174]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 945BC8CD33 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2019 20:00:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mozolevsky@gmail.com) Received: by mail-oi1-f174.google.com with SMTP id u18so28617095oie.10 for ; Thu, 03 Jan 2019 12:00:30 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=OUMwMCeaaTfkraNMW1B/3erj4jkXgPbKRleyIgWp4RQ=; b=gG9d+vVEqn29ulNzp0Y0/hy3mZ2J9hjpehSsKZjxzLEXnDzfkOvvyCK/TwbzZ9yp1I uyGIQ+yp78DtQYoTXdAvocTJYet//PmpV3NeHFtJb2vZ7hFYz3gXV9FRLbv2EE6RfHbF K0U6DK7J3ohX1riOWf20XRA/MakAJjqNIkJNWHd/P6FlukB20M+XZ6fO5lFKdhzL+laQ EL4ikkaazBbRf0Yar4pcbyS/ZG8ftr9l0X6pvV3bzv5yMPVX2Q0flLUOjg8u/YYdjCyV bP++ujCysX+1JKC9TM0Rrse7K2YFRTLg7ecQToyz47mK7Fx0hoowdInPlRh0CVrdmz2k Yxjg== X-Gm-Message-State: AJcUukdNicpeyu31S6bMLQahxsV5PNeUYtKGKmYE+C0ojCjhsP3g8VYJ ZQQQW0M4MFvfvlfXOOh2GnB3kLacf+UZDGhBkPoJOcnz X-Google-Smtp-Source: ALg8bN7um4ATRtJljXB6p7Rk5BgoctF2RgL1pXkcGL75o94Lz0AVvFdKuH/Ccsj1ZhiOJ2dBViGlMQ8kozonEhs3k+A= X-Received: by 2002:a54:4713:: with SMTP id k19mr5610093oik.241.1546545623899; Thu, 03 Jan 2019 12:00:23 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <201901021829.x02IT4Kc064169@slippy.cwsent.com> <361CCB81-AEB6-4EAC-9604-CD8F4C63948C@gmail.com> <7BCC2D20-7CC5-42B1-BBD2-F3D077D59081@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: From: Igor Mozolevsky Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2019 19:59:46 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Speculative: Rust for base system components To: Warner Losh Cc: Hackers freeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 945BC8CD33 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of mozolevsky@gmail.com designates 209.85.167.174 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=mozolevsky@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.82 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.988,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:209.85.128.0/17]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[hybrid-lab.co.uk]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[174.167.85.209.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.73)[-0.727,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[igor@hybrid-lab.co.uk,mozolevsky@gmail.com]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:209.85.128.0/17, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[igor@hybrid-lab.co.uk,mozolevsky@gmail.com]; IP_SCORE(-1.10)[ipnet: 209.85.128.0/17(-3.78), asn: 15169(-1.64), country: US(-0.08)]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2019 20:00:31 -0000 On Thu, 3 Jan 2019 at 19:44, Warner Losh wrote: > And who is getting punished? We're having an interesting discussion about= a possible new technology to use and developing criteria to know when we w= ill know if/when it's useful. "Call[ing] the discussion mostly closed," and calling to get on implementing in CRust is pushing, if it isn't, then I don't know what is:- On Thu, 3 Jan 2019 at 16:26, Enji Cooper wrote: > PS let=E2=80=99s call the discussion mostly closed and start working on p= rototypes instead of beating a dead horse further.