From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 1 00:42:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BB3916A417; Fri, 1 Feb 2008 00:42:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris#@1command.com) Received: from mail.1command.com (mail.1command.com [75.160.109.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB96E13C455; Fri, 1 Feb 2008 00:42:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris#@1command.com) Received: from mail.1command.com (localhost.1command.com [127.0.0.1]) by mail.1command.com (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id m110g8tK030681; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 16:42:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris#@1command.com) Received: (from www@localhost) by mail.1command.com (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id m110g8QM030680; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 16:42:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris#@1command.com) Received: from udns.ultimatedns.net (udns.ultimatedns.net [75.160.109.240]) by webmail.1command.com (H.R. Communications Messaging System) with HTTP; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 16:42:08 -0800 Message-ID: <20080131164208.b5npp3x68o8gwwo4@webmail.1command.com> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 16:42:08 -0800 From: "Chris H." To: Pete French References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: H.R. Communications Internet Messaging System (HCIMS) 4.1 Professional (not for redistribution) / FreeBSD-5.5 Cc: freebsd-apache@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [: -le: argument expected X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2008 00:42:17 -0000 Hello Peter, and thank you for your thoughtful reply. Quoting Pete French : >> also already subscribed to the Apache dev list). My conclusion was that >> the ultimate migration to 2, would be a lot smoother, and easier if moving >> to 2.0 - the layout of both the server, and conf files are /very/ similar >> (to 1.3). > > O.K., that makes a lot of sense - I can't remember how I did this, but > I think I ended abandonning migrating the config files and simply > re-wrote them to have the same functionality when I got a few spare > dayes ;) Well, to be Frank with you ( even though my name is Chris ;) ), having to migrate ~50 conf files/layouts on top of "mastering" the /new/ Apache way of doing things, on top of aquainting myself with the way the modules /now/ do things, just isn't going to fit in my schedule. Oh sure I hear you (or others) say; you're going to have to do all of that anyway. So why not just start now, and get it over with. While to a degree that may be so. But as I have it now, my servers are frequently hammered at ~50-75 attacks/second, all without fail. They are (thus far) also impervious to attempts to acquisition/manipulation of server data (most notably PHP). This has been no small feat, and has all been from the acumulation, and examination of the data that was waged against our servers over the years. Not to mention, becoming intimately familiar with all the modules we use (weaknesses/strengths etc...). So, in an effort to continue to thwart such attacks. I'm going to /attempt/ to use 2.0.x. Which really only requires me to re-aquaint myself with the modules. /Then/ should the need/time/desire to move to 2.2.x occur. It won't be such an unreasonable task. :) > >> me to find an argument to move from 2.0. The current trouble I'm >> encountering is clearly a PHP5 issue. As it isn't even touching the >> Apache 2 install during the build process. I hope I've adequately >> answered your question, and hope I wasn't /too/ verbose. :) > > NO, answered perfectly - am tyring to remmebr whether the reaosn I > didnt like 2.0 was to do with php too though. It seems to > cause some kind of woes every time I upgrade. I don't think it's (at this point in my install) reasonable to assume Apache 2.0 has anything to do with it. As the PHP5 build doesn't even care (or ask about) which Apache version I'm using, except to differentiate between it being 1.3 || 2.x. > > You said you had to sup the ports tree BTW - does that mean you rebuilt > every other port on the system ? No. Not yet. I examined the changes that were applied, and the only areas that affect what I struggling with now, are being built /after/ the cvsup (weren't built before). Thanks again for taking the time to respond. --Chris H > > -pete. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- panic: kernel trap (ignored)