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[209.85.210.44]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id g18sm10420868otg.50.2019.12.01.19.09.30 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 01 Dec 2019 19:09:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-ot1-f44.google.com with SMTP id i4so2870971otr.3 for ; Sun, 01 Dec 2019 19:09:30 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 2002:a05:6830:1211:: with SMTP id r17mr20020620otp.157.1575256170506; Sun, 01 Dec 2019 19:09:30 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <40710.1575238505@kaos.jnpr.net> <95398.1575254530@kaos.jnpr.net> In-Reply-To: <95398.1575254530@kaos.jnpr.net> Reply-To: cem@freebsd.org From: Conrad Meyer Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2019 19:09:19 -0800 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: Killing RANDOM_LOADABLE? To: "Simon J. 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Gerraty wrote: > Per my followup, we are no longer using RANDOM_LOADABLE, > we preload the selected module. So long as that functionality is not > broken we should be ok. If your preload system does not use RANDOM_LOADABLE, then perhaps there aren't any consumers. That'd be great. I don't intend to change loader(8) preloading or the kernel linker in relation to this topic. > Since we haven't used it for a couple of years I'd hope we would not be > impacted but I know we've been bitten in the past by changes in the random > infra, though I don't recall the detail - will check with some other > folk. Thanks for checking, I appreciate it. Best, Conrad