From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 9 20:16:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAD151065674 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2008 20:16:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fj@panix.com) Received: from l2mail1.panix.com (l2mail1.panix.com [166.84.1.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8F6E8FC1B for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2008 20:16:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fj@panix.com) Received: from mail2.panix.com (mail2.panix.com [166.84.1.73]) by l2mail1.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99E065C20B for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2008 15:58:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from panix5.panix.com (panix5.panix.com [166.84.1.5]) by mail2.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B707F34814 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2008 15:58:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by panix5.panix.com (Postfix, from userid 16484) id A5BF3241E0; Sat, 9 Aug 2008 15:58:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 15:58:53 -0400 From: Joe Altman To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080809195853.GA29116@panix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.10i Subject: Grip, via GNOME, requires Kerberos: what were they thinking? X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2008 20:16:29 -0000 I like Grip, a lot. I've ripped gigs and gigs of CDs to FLAC. Unfortunately, it depends on the Tentacular Array named The Gnome Project. On a brand new install of FreeBSD 7.0, updated today and yesterday, Kerberos is required to obtain Grip. AFAICT, according to the Makefile for gnomevfs2, required by Grip, there is no "OFF" knob: # $FreeBSD: ports/devel/gnome-vfs/Makefile,v 1.134 2008/06/06 14:33:36 edwin Exp $ .if defined(WITHOUT_KERBEROS) @${ECHO_CMD} "${PKGNAME}: KERBEROS is required." @${FALSE} .endif No ifs, no ands, no buts, and I've lost my grip. There is most certainly not an OFF knob for gnome-vfs. I cannot imagine why a single user desktop must have Kerberos. There is probably no solution beyond sucking it up and rebuilding from source to have Kerberos, but this thing called The Gnu Object Modelling Environment is just flat bizarre. Is there lore for how things end up like this? Maybe a Dilbert cartoon?