From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 22 17:26:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96A08106566B for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 17:26:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-gg0-f182.google.com (mail-gg0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CDF98FC0C for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 17:26:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ggnk4 with SMTP id k4so1069268ggn.13 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 10:26:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=njU0O5QWz2Z4Onl6jYd6yXeBQy9GoKjp/WO8hfC6roY=; b=l4PtiV3qcofWbgXhiU5s7oYxPWzifH+rHxGnuWq44s402mqonCOOi0JlsPkVuD9BwC DQrqiKAPNtvCclAMA0upbK0w71uGtEiHgCUbf36xNEP/PDawnieYcD56OJIS1Zx0N6Zb aC2OMU0eZy7kT81TdISlpyHxdmmmxyp9UFTebLPjB2p8A+i9U4gVD0aUiFMwQwmFqRkU TbTJVurinGTW37StqcdDd/Z/SO0w8Q3uWJ8zlmi1aApg3Tq5lqSdjIsatncBHZ4YpVD3 CG2omoF8jsCBkKaEUmej1cNVtLBJh7/ONPxRDHBGhH7ABdF8lzwyugO32C9KkXBN8GZ/ yrBw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.135.72 with SMTP id pq8mr2970673igb.53.1345656393401; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 10:26:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.136.11 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 10:26:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [93.221.168.169] In-Reply-To: References: <20120822102956.GA43074@lpthe.jussieu.fr> <20120822110356.GA91189@kontrol.kode5.net> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 19:26:32 +0200 Message-ID: From: "C. P. Ghost" To: David Jackson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQk5Id/j6opeYZJ8JNEVX1ZsIpW4Yzy2ikyPAjCotV8XhgP6mlEWC4UW2c7ZeGCSpatQt7YO Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Warning - FreeBSD (*BSD) entanglement in Linux ecosystem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 17:26:35 -0000 On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 3:41 PM, David Jackson wrote: > That sort of shows my point in fact. There is nothing stopping FreeBSD from > implementing cgroups, udev, fanotify, timerfd, signalfd, its not like > Linux is going to enforce patents on these things, its software, and > freebsd can easily add code to support these things, and as well, systemd. Right! Nothing prevents us from writing a Linux compat shim similar to the Linux-ABI (linuxulator) to provide the framework needed by systemd et al. Make it optional, if necessary, so that the base default FreeBSD system won't be contaminated. It would also be nice to be able to kldload linux drivers (binary blobs developed for Linux and provided by 3rd party hardware vendors), but that would be harder to implement. Then again, why not try? Isn't it like ndis(4), all over again? -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/