From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Oct 30 8:51:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.ne.home.com (ha1.rdc1.ne.home.com [24.2.4.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4949737B4C5 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 08:51:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from cx443070b ([24.0.36.170]) by mail.rdc1.ne.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP id <20001030165058.EEJO16034.mail.rdc1.ne.home.com@cx443070b>; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 08:50:58 -0800 Message-ID: <002f01c04291$e327c760$aa240018@cx443070b> From: "Jeremiah Gowdy" To: "Chris Wasser" , References: <20001029192623.A8105@area51.v-wave.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD on IRC? Anywhere? Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 08:53:10 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002C_01C0424E.D48433D0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01C0424E.D48433D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Chris Wasser" To: Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2000 6:26 PM Subject: FreeBSD on IRC? Anywhere? > Anyone know if there's a FreeBSD channel on IRC that doesn't suck? = #FreeBSD on EFNet is lamer then #Linux normally is and > #freebsdhelp on EFnet isn't what I'm looking for. I recently = discovered irc.freebsd.org but no one seems to talk there, is > there an actual irc server where one can go for actual technical = discussions about FreeBSD and don't have to deal with egos > the size of a linux kernel tarball? #freebsd on EfNet is lame because it's not a help channel ? Does = "technical discussions" mean help ? #freebsdhelp is for "technical = discussions" that involve other people helping you. #freebsd is a = channel for freebsd people to talk about shit, only some of which is = about freebsd, and none of which is dealing with help questions. There = are two channels, if you don't like one or the other or both, deal with = it without acting like a child. =20 The FreeBSD FAQ states loud and clear: Channel #FreeBSD on EFNet is a FreeBSD forum, but don't go there for = tech support or to try and get folks there to help you avoid the pain of = reading man pages or doing your own research. It is a chat channel, = first and foremost, and topics there are just as likely to involve sex, = sports or nuclear weapons as they are FreeBSD. You Have Been Warned! = Available at server irc.chat.org If you can't be bothered to read the FAQ then tough ****. As for a FreeBSD Channel other than those two FreeBSD channels, one = again if you would READ THE FAQ it states: 14. Are there FreeBSD IRC (Internet Relay Chat) channels? Yes, most major IRC networks host a FreeBSD chat channel: a.. Channel #FreeBSD on EFNet is a FreeBSD forum, but don't go there = for tech support or to try and get folks there to help you avoid the = pain of reading man pages or doing your own research. It is a chat = channel, first and foremost, and topics there are just as likely to = involve sex, sports or nuclear weapons as they are FreeBSD. You Have = Been Warned! Available at server irc.chat.org. b.. Channel #FreeBSDhelp on EFNet is a channel dedicated to helping = FreeBSD users. They are much more sympathetic to questions then #FreeBSD = is. c.. Channel #FreeBSD on DALNET is available at irc.dal.net in the US = and irc.eu.dal.net in Europe. d.. Channel #FreeBSD on UNDERNET is available at us.undernet.org in = the US and eu.undernet.org in Europe. Since it is a help channel, be = prepared to read the documents you are referred to. e.. Channel #FreeBSD on HybNet is available at irc.FreeBSD.org. This = channel is a help channel. Each of these channels are distinct and are not connected to each other. = Their chat styles also differ, so you may need to try each to find one = suited to your chat style. As with *all* types of IRC traffic, if you're = easily offended or can't deal with lots of young people (and more than a = few older ones) doing the verbal equivalent of jello wrestling, don't = even bother with it. I just get sick and tired of this attitude like you have a right to have = people help you and a right to tell other people how to run their = channel. If you don't like #freebsd on EFNet and you're not willing to = read the damn FAQ, then start your own EFNet FreeBSD channel and run it = as you see fit. Data/BasharTeg from EFNet #L ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01C0424E.D48433D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Wasser" <cwasser@v-wave.com>
To: <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2000 6:26 = PM
Subject: FreeBSD on IRC?=20 Anywhere?

> Anyone know if there's a FreeBSD = channel on=20 IRC that doesn't suck? #FreeBSD on EFNet is lamer then #Linux normally = is=20 and
> #freebsdhelp on EFnet isn't what I'm looking for. I recently = discovered irc.freebsd.org but no one seems to talk there, is
> = there an=20 actual irc server where one can go for actual technical discussions = about=20 FreeBSD and don't have to deal with egos
> the size of a linux = kernel=20 tarball?
#freebsd on EfNet is lame because it's = not a help=20 channel ?  Does "technical discussions" mean help ?  = #freebsdhelp is=20 for "technical discussions" that involve other people helping you.  = #freebsd is a channel for freebsd people to talk about shit, only some = of which=20 is about freebsd, and none of which is dealing with help = questions.  There=20 are two channels, if you don't like one or the other or both, deal with = it=20 without acting like a child. 
 
The FreeBSD FAQ states loud and = clear:
 
Channel #FreeBSD on EFNet is a FreeBSD = forum, but=20 don't go there for tech support or to try and get folks there to help = you avoid=20 the pain of reading man pages or doing your own research. It is a chat = channel,=20 first and foremost, and topics there are just as likely to involve sex, = sports=20 or nuclear weapons as they are FreeBSD. You Have Been Warned! Available = at=20 server irc.chat.org
 
If you can't be bothered to read the = FAQ then tough=20 ****.
As for a FreeBSD Channel other than = those two=20 FreeBSD channels, one again if you would READ THE FAQ it = states:
 

14. Are there FreeBSD = IRC (Internet=20 Relay Chat) channels?

Yes, most major IRC networks host a = FreeBSD chat=20 channel:

  • Channel #FreeBSD on EFNet is a FreeBSD = forum, but=20 don't go there for tech support or to try and get folks there to help = you=20 avoid the pain of reading man pages or doing your own research. It is = a chat=20 channel, first and foremost, and topics there are just as likely to = involve=20 sex, sports or nuclear weapons as they are FreeBSD. You Have Been = Warned!=20 Available at server irc.chat.org.

  • Channel #FreeBSDhelp on EFNet is a = channel=20 dedicated to helping FreeBSD users. They are much more sympathetic to=20 questions then #FreeBSD is.

  • Channel #FreeBSD on DALNET is available = at=20 irc.dal.net in the US and irc.eu.dal.net in Europe.

  • Channel #FreeBSD on UNDERNET is = available at=20 us.undernet.org in the US and eu.undernet.org in Europe. Since it is a = help=20 channel, be prepared to read the documents you are referred = to.

  • Channel #FreeBSD on HybNet is available at irc.FreeBSD.org. This channel = is a help=20 channel.

Each of these channels are distinct and = are not=20 connected to each other. Their chat styles also differ, so you may need = to try=20 each to find one suited to your chat style. As with *all* types of IRC = traffic,=20 if you're easily offended or can't deal with lots of young people (and = more than=20 a few older ones) doing the verbal equivalent of jello wrestling, don't = even=20 bother with it.

I just get sick and tired of this = attitude like you=20 have a right to have people help you and a right to tell other people = how to run=20 their channel.  If you don't like #freebsd on EFNet and you're not = willing=20 to read the damn FAQ, then start your own EFNet FreeBSD channel and run = it as=20 you see fit.

Data/BasharTeg  from EFNet = #L

 

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