Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 20:25:43 -0800 From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm@toybox.placo.com> To: "Robert Slade" <bsd@bathnetworks.com> Cc: Michael Bernstein <bernsteinm@gmail.com>, jasonharback <jasonharback@frontiernet.net>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Sparc vs i386 architecture Message-ID: <LOBBIFDAGNMAMLGJJCKNOEDPFDAA.tedm@toybox.placo.com> In-Reply-To: <1136705674.23844.15.camel@lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk>
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>-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Robert Slade >Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 11:35 PM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt >Cc: Michael Bernstein; jasonharback; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: RE: Sparc vs i386 architecture > > >On Sun, 2006-01-08 at 04:51, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >> What machine code exploits currently exist for FreeBSD on the i386 >> other than the F00F bug, which has already been patched out? >> I wasn't aware of any. >> >> Ted >> > >Ted, > >Good point. However, in my case I'm using the sparc (its a U10) because >it there. I originally got it as I needed to find out about >Solaris/Sparc. It was lying in the back of a cupboard so when I started >to investigate replacements for a domain based on W2k using FBSD I >dusted it off and I'm using it for the BDC. The only thing I really >noticed is the disk(s) are slow compared (SUN's IDE) to the PDC which >has a fast scsi setup. Given the choice I think I would still go for a >good sparc from Ebay over a i386. > We still have a couple Sparcs in service, doing odd jobs. Mainly haven't gotten around to replacing them, however I will probably keep at least 1 running indefinitely for software portability testing. I think with the cost of PC hardware today that a brand new device is less trouble for a production server and faster as well. You can get a clone rack mount server built on an Intel desktop motherboard with mirrored SATA 200GB disks for a bit under $1000 now that will kick the stuffing out of just about everything older that you can lay your hands on, and be more reliable. Where I still use older gear is for servers that there's -no- money budgeted for, and that there's a vested interest in keeping -off- the radar scope of upper management for political reasons. For example that older 300Mhz P2 server decomissioned a few years ago makes a great platform to run Nessus on, and the last thing I want is a discussion among the upper managers who don't know any better of the merits of whether or not we should be attempting to break into our own desktops. It's much better to find the insecure desktop then go to the upper managers and tell them that you caught employee X who keeps bringing in his personal laptop and docking it to the network, and who never updates it because way back in 1892 an update broke his 2,000 year old shareware wigit he downloaded for free, and now he never updates, that his precious toy has 10 security holes in it. You get what I mean. In any organization there's a need for "stealth" servers that aren't publically acknowledged by the IT group as existing, but nevertheless have key tasks, if not politically controversial ones, to perform. Ted
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