From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 17 07:58:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3F5F1065676 for ; Sat, 17 Oct 2009 07:58:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gedankezauberer@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC8078FC19 for ; Sat, 17 Oct 2009 07:58:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from OMTA13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.52]) by QMTA13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id tjx31c00117UAYkADjym6r; Sat, 17 Oct 2009 07:58:46 +0000 Received: from debianbox.local ([76.112.93.25]) by OMTA13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id tjyk1c0030Yq9Sc8ZjylLL; Sat, 17 Oct 2009 07:58:45 +0000 From: Allen To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 03:57:35 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.9 References: <200910170053.52329.GedankeZauberer@comcast.net> <200910170208.46267.GedankeZauberer@comcast.net> <22166b750910162352r58d0eeb3t7916dc2064fb493c@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <22166b750910162352r58d0eeb3t7916dc2064fb493c@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200910170357.35767.GedankeZauberer@comcast.net> Subject: Re: Quickie question X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 07:58:45 -0000 On Saturday 17 October 2009 02:52:56 am Tony Theodore wrote: *Snipped for politeness* > OK, so if you have a look at the contents of > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/, it seems 7.1 packages > are no longer being built. Not sure there's much you can do apart from > using ports or upgrading. Hey, Thanks for letting me know about that. I didn't know. I heard the other day on here that 7.1 had a longer life cycle than 7.2 so I hadn't upgraded as I planned on waiting for 8.0, but I guess it's time to just go ahead and upgrade. I'm still getting used to FreeBSD's update VS upgrade style, because even though I've had FreeBSD since 4.0, I would usually set up a machine running it and then use it for fun projects to toy with, but didn't ever set up servers on it because I was confused for a long time on how you did security patching. This was mostly because I came from a very Linux oriented background in computing (I've only had a computer for... Well since 1999, so I'm by no means a guru at anything) but on Linux and Windows, you just install patches and that's it, and on Linux for example; You just download a patch as a security fix, install or update the thing, and you're done. Slackware is what I run on my main FTP server, and there, I use Swaret now, but before I'd just use wget to grab a new tgz package, and use upgradepkg to get the machine patched, so when I got to FreeBSD patches, I was very confused because I couldn't figure out why freebsd-update didn't patch opera lol. Yea I know, stupidity lol. Then I realized that freebsd-update did EXACTLY what it was supposed to do, updating the base system, and that all those things were ports, and I needed to update THOSE to fix those security holes. So now I was like OK, I'll update the base with freebsd-update, and then when I go and get new ports, I can use portsnap and portupdate / upgrade... And I was like wow, I can just cd into the ports directory and build them, neat! So it's been a learning experience, but at the same time, I took so much longer than I should have, I felt pretty stupid when I realized what I was doing wrong. Is there a configuration file somewhere that pkg_add checks? I mean I know there has to be one somewhere... Couldn't I change the server listed to use one on freebsd.org/ports ? That way I could still install packages with it? Anyway, thanks very much for all the help everyone! I'm going to probably upgrade, just got a lot of back ups to get done because I was using it as a secondary FTP server too heh. -Allen