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Date:      Mon, 11 Feb 2002 22:10:53 -0500
From:      Brian T.Schellenberger <bts@babbleon.org>
To:        Andrew Gould <andrewgould@yahoo.com>, jstocker@tzi.de
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: USB drive -- problems
Message-ID:  <20020212031053.2B772408D@i8k.babbleon.org>
In-Reply-To: <20020211163721.18370.qmail@web13404.mail.yahoo.com>
References:  <20020211163721.18370.qmail@web13404.mail.yahoo.com>

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On Monday 11 February 2002 11:37 am, Andrew Gould wrote:
> I understand neither scsi nor usb issues; but am
> considering getting a usb drive for my KDS minibook pc
> ( a cool little device, except for the winmodem).
>
> Is the problem below related to any use of usb hard
> drives?  Is it isolated to the use of pci usb
> controllers?  Am I way off base on both questions?

Actually, I am no expert, but I believe that the problem below has nothing to 
do with USB or PCI -- that part of the equation in fact worked flawlessly 
without any difficulty.  (I *did* build a kernel with all the proper USB 
support before I even bought the drive.)

It's just the inside of the 80G LaCie USB drive there happens to reside a 
SCSI drive, and *that* had a problem.  This problem, was however, very easily 
fixed once somebody could tell me how.

>
> Thanks,
>
> Andrew Gould
>
> --- "Brian T.Schellenberger" <bts@babbleon.org> wrote:
> > Bingo!
> >
> > That was it!  It's working beautifully now.
> >
> > ThankyouThankyouThankyouThankyou.
> >
> > I'll submit the patches to a committer so I don't
> > have to re-patch every time
> > I upgrade the source.
> >
> > PS: Did you submit your patch so it can be
> > integrated into the offiical
> > source?
> >
> > PPS: Anyway know of any particular reason why
> > DA_Q_NO_6_BYTE isn't just the
> > default?  Looking at the scsi file it sure seems
> > like a large number of
> > devices need this . . . at any rate it seems like it
> > might be cool if i/o
> > errors of this nature could be recognized and the
> > feature dynamically turned
> > off . . .
> >
> >
> > PS: Just in case there's somebody on the scsi list
> > who'd like to commit my
> > change, my patch is attached.
> >
> >
> > On Monday 11 February 2002 03:53 am, Jan Stocker
> >
> > wrote:
> > > Excuse me for the late reply...
> > >
> > > src/sys/cam/scsi/scsi_da.c contains quirks for
> >
> > each da device...
> >
> > > ive added one for my digicam:
> > >
> > > {
> > > 	/* MINOLTA DIMAGE 2330 */
> > > 	{T_DIRECT, SIP_MEDIA_REMOVABLE, "MINOLTA",
> >
> > "DIMAGE 2330*","*"},
> >
> > > 	/*quirks*/ DA_Q_NO_6_BYTE
> > > },
> > >
> > > so no 6-byte commands will be send to the
> >
> > device... search for a device
> >
> > > entry similar to your disc controller, add an
> >
> > entry and recompile...
> >
> > > Jan
> > >
> > > P.S: Your surname looks quite german....
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Brian T.Schellenberger
> >
> > [mailto:bts@babbleon.org]
> >
> > > > Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 12:31 AM
> > > > To: jstocker@tzi.de
> > > > Subject: Re: USB drive -- problems
> > > >
> > > > On Monday 04 February 2002 08:00 am, you wrote:
> > > > > A maybe better discussion group will be
> >
> > freebsd-scsi.
> >
> > > > > Maybe you need to turn off 6-byte commands
> >
> > with a quirk...
> >
> > > > Hmm . . . perhaps.  But I'm afraid I don't even
> >
> > know what that means.
> >
> > > > Can you clarify, or tell me what I should be
> >
> > reading that I'm not?
> >
> > > > > Jan
> > > > >
> > > > > > PPS: Why, oh why is there a /dev/ad0 and a
> >
> > /dev/da0?  What do
> >
> > > > > > they stand for?
> > > > >
> > > > > Okay... da is for the DirectAccess drives on
> >
> > USB/SCSI
> >
> > > > > ad represent the ATA-Drives. So ad0 is the
> >
> > primary-master ATA-IDE
> >
> > > > > drive.
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG
> >
> > [mailto:owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf
> > Of Brian
> >
> > > > > > T.Schellenberger
> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 3:20 PM
> > > > > > To: freebsd-question@FreeBSD.ORG;
> >
> > freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG
> >
> > > > > > Subject: USB drive -- problems
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ok, with little confidence it would work,
> >
> > since I could find
> >
> > > > no very good
> > > >
> > > > > > info on USB & FreeBSD, and there was no
> >
> > response to my query on
> >
> > > > > > the subject,
> > > > > > I decided in a "what the hell" moment to get
> >
> > a USB drive and see what
> >
> > > > > > happened.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have a LaCie 80G drive.  It was $250 for
> >
> > 80, USB 2, and if
> >
> > > > it works it
> > > >
> > > > > > should be pretty darn cool.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It is recognized by the kernel, so I thought
> >
> > I was doing
> >
> > > > pretty well, but
> > > >
> > > > > > when I try to actually do anything with it,
> >
> > I run into
> >
> > > > trouble.  Here are
> > > >
> > > > > > some messages from /var/log messages, first
> >
> > hte successful
> >
> > > > boot stuff and
> > > >
> > > > > > then the failure messages:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Feb  3 04:31:21 i8k /kernel: uhci0: <Intel
> >
> > 82801BA/BAM (ICH2) USB
> >
> > > > > > controller
> > > > > > USB-A> port 0xbce0-0xbcff irq 11 at device
> >
> > 31.2 on pci0
> >
> > > > > > Feb  3 04:31:21 i8k /kernel: usb0: <Intel
> >
> > 82801BA/BAM (ICH2) USB
> >
> > > > > > controller
> > > > > > USB-A> on uhci0
> > > > > > Feb  3 04:31:21 i8k /kernel: usb0: USB
> >
> > revision 1.0
> >
> > > > > > Feb  3 04:31:21 i8k /kernel: uhub0: Intel
> >
> > UHCI root hub,
> >
> > > > class 9/0, rev
> > > >
> > > > > > 1.00/1.00, addr 1
> > > > > > Feb  3 04:31:21 i8k /kernel: uhub0: 2 ports
> >
> > with 2 removable, self
> >
> > > > > > powered Feb  3 04:31:21 i8k /kernel: umass0:
> >
> > LaCie LaCie
> >
> > > > StudioDrive USB2
> > > >
> > > > > > ,
> > > > > > rev 2.00/10.06, addr 2
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Feb  3 04:31:21 i8k /kernel: da0 at
> >
> > umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
> >
> > > > > > Feb  3 04:31:22 i8k /kernel: da0: <Maxtor 4
> >
> > D080H4 DAH0> Fixed
> >
> > > > > > Direct Access
> > > > > > SCSI-0 device
> > > > > > Feb  3 04:31:22 i8k /kernel: da0: 650KB/s
> >
> > transfers
> >
> > > > > > Feb  3 04:31:22 i8k /kernel: da0: 78167MB
> >
> > (160086528 512 byte
> >
> > > > > > sectors: 64H
> > > > > > 32S/T 12631C)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Feb  3 05:08:48 i8k /kernel:
> >
> > (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): READ(06).
> >
> > > > > > CDB: 8 0 0 0 1
> > > > > > 0
> > > > > > Feb  3 05:08:48 i8k /kernel:
> >
> > (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): ILLEGAL
> >
> > > > > > REQUEST asc:21,0
> > > > > > Feb  3 05:08:48 i8k /kernel:
> >
> > (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Logical
> >
> > > > > > block address
> > > > > > out of range
> > > > > > Feb  3 05:08:57 i8k /kernel:
> >
> > (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): READ(06).
> >
> > > > > > CDB: 8 0 0 0 1
> > > > > > 0
> > > > > > Feb  3 05:08:57 i8k /kernel:
> >
> > (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): ILLEGAL
> >
> > > > > > REQUEST asc:21,0
> > > > > > Feb  3 05:08:57 i8k /kernel:
> >
> > (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Logical
> >
> > > > > > block address
> > > > > > out of range
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The set of error messages above were
> >
> > returned when I did a simple
> >
> > > > > > dd if=/dev/da0
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > PS: I might not recieve mail for a couple
> >
> > days so don't be
> >
> > > > surprised if
> > > >
> > > > > > responses are a little slow.  Based on
> >
> > previous response to USB
> >
> > > > > > queries on
> > > > > > the questions list I doubt that excessive
> >
> > responses will be a big
> >
> > > > > > problem.
> > > > > > I'm including the questions list here more
> >
> > as an "FYI" sort of thing.
> >
> > > > > >  It's darn confusing and it makes me nervous
> >
> > as heck doing
> >
> > > > > > "dangerous" operations where I am one
> >
> > swapped letter pair away from
> >
> > > > > > wiping out my primary
> > > > > > drive!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Brian T. Schellenberger . . . . . . .
> >
> > bts@wnt.sas.com (work)
> >
> > > > > > Brian, the man from Babble-On . . . .
> >
> > bts@babbleon.org (personal)
> >
> > > > > >                                 ME -->
> >
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> >
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> > > > > >
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> >
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> >
> > > > Brian, the man from Babble-On . . . .
> >
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> >
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> >
> > > *** scsi_da.c.org	Mon Feb 11 07:18:39 2002
> >
> > --- scsi_da.c	Mon Feb 11 07:23:18 2002
> > ***************
> > *** 255,265 ****
> >   		{T_DIRECT, SIP_MEDIA_REMOVABLE, "Sony", "Sony
> > DSC", "*"},
> >   		/*quirks*/ DA_Q_NO_6_BYTE|DA_Q_NO_SYNC_CACHE
> >   	},
> > !         {
> >   		/*
> >   		 * Maxtor 3000LE USB Drive
> >   		 */
> >   		{T_DIRECT, SIP_MEDIA_FIXED, "MAXTOR*",
> > "K040H2*", "*"},
> >   		/*quirks*/ DA_Q_NO_6_BYTE
> >   	},
> >   	{
> > --- 255,272 ----
> >   		{T_DIRECT, SIP_MEDIA_REMOVABLE, "Sony", "Sony
> > DSC", "*"},
> >   		/*quirks*/ DA_Q_NO_6_BYTE|DA_Q_NO_SYNC_CACHE
> >   	},
> > !     {
> >   		/*
> >   		 * Maxtor 3000LE USB Drive
> >   		 */
> >   		{T_DIRECT, SIP_MEDIA_FIXED, "MAXTOR*",
> > "K040H2*", "*"},
> > + 		/*quirks*/ DA_Q_NO_6_BYTE
> > + 	},
> > +     {
> > + 		/*
> > + 		 * LaCie USB drive, among others
> > + 		 */
> > + 		{T_DIRECT, SIP_MEDIA_FIXED, "Maxtor*",
> > "D080H4*", "*"},
> >   		/*quirks*/ DA_Q_NO_6_BYTE
> >   	},
> >   	{
>
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