From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Jun 7 21:06:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA02056 for hackers-outgoing; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 21:06:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA02014; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 21:06:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Root.COM (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id VAA12386; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 21:06:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199606080406.VAA12386@Root.COM> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.Root.COM: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Nate Williams cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , hackers@freebsd.org (FreeBSD Hackers), freebsd-stable@freebsd.org (FreeBSD Stable Users), FreeBSD-current@freebsd.org (FreeBSD current users) Subject: Re: The -stable problem: my view In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 07 Jun 1996 09:29:32 MDT." <199606071529.JAA29241@rocky.sri.MT.net> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Fri, 07 Jun 1996 21:06:31 -0700 Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >This kind of work is necessary for -stable to exist, and apparently at >least Jordan and David are completely unwillingly to do this. Do any of >the developers (and Peter the CVS-meister) have anything to say? I've obviously been willing since I've been doing this for over a year now. The problem is that I have no time to work on new development myself. New development is the "fun" part of FreeBSD. I haven't had any FreeBSD "fun" for more than a year now, and I'm quickly approaching the burnout point (actually, I've already burnt out; I'm currently forcing myself to continue in this role only because I feel obligated to get the release out). This is a difficult problem for me. I've intentionally placed myself in- between the release tree (which is currently -stable) and -current in an attempt to improve the quality of FreeBSD releases. If I decide not to do this any longer, then I'm affraid that the quality of the released code will go into the toilet. We need a new model. One that keeps the quality high and one that doesn't prevent me from doing new development. -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project