From owner-freebsd-advocacy Mon Jun 28 7: 2:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from kronos.alcnet.com (kronos.alcnet.com [63.69.28.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16BF814DA6 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 07:02:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kbyanc@alcnet.com) X-Provider: ALC Communications, Inc. http://www.alcnet.com/ Received: from kbyanc (ws-41.alcnet.com [63.69.28.41]) by kronos.alcnet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/antispam) with SMTP id KAA61801; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 10:14:14 -0400 (EDT) From: "Kelly Yancey" To: "Ladavac Marino" , Cc: Subject: RE: Using MS on FreeBSD sites Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 10:12:47 -0400 Message-ID: <000a01bec170$4c7cd560$291c453f@kbyanc.alcnet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <55586E7391ACD211B9730000C11002761796AA@r-lmh-wi-100.corpnet.at> Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Don't get me wrong. I use MS products myself at home and work (actually, this e-mail is written in Outlook). Honestly, I don't expect there are that many people (proportionally) who can say they don't use *any* MS products ever. The only reason I even bothered mentioning it is that I have my share of headaches from linux kids who seem to get a kick out of pointing out anything associated with FreeBSD (even, as in this case, unofficially) that involves MS. Just like some FreeBSD fans get kicks out of pointing out when anything related to linux involves MS (or even FreeBSD, ie. the recent talk about linuxcountry.com being hosting on FreeBSD). I have to admit that I have been rather paranoid lately because I have a number of proposals for projects where I have suggested FreeBSD and am having to fight off attacks from the linux front. I've actually had a server at my own office get linuxed despite my protests (I server *I* have to maintain) after the linux advocate pulled up every piece of dirt he could find on FreeBSD. Whether or not FreeBSDDiary.com is designed with Microsoft FrontPage may not qualify as dirt, but I won't be surprised when somehow it gets turned into an argument for linux and shows up during my next server proposal. I know the world isn't black and white, there are plenty of products from plenty of manufactures, all of which we use either because we want to or have to. I assume most, if not all, FreeBSD advocates realize this and realize there is plenty of room for healthy competition between all operating systems and all applications. The question is: are all other advocates playing by the same rules? I really didn't mean to offend anyone by pointing out the site was done in FrontPage (I don't care for FrontPage myself, but then again, I used another MS product for my web design: notepad :) ). Kelly ~kbyanc@posi.net~ FreeBSD - The Power To Serve - http://www.freebsd.org/ Join Team FreeBSD - http://www.posi.net/freebsd/Team-FreeBSD > -----Original Message----- > From: Ladavac Marino [mailto:mladavac@metropolitan.at] > Sent: Monday, June 28, 1999 5:25 AM > To: 'junkmale@xtra.co.nz'; Kelly Yancey > Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org > Subject: RE: Using MS on FreeBSD sites > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dan Langille [SMTP:junkmale@xtra.co.nz] > > Sent: Saturday, June 26, 1999 9:50 AM > > To: Kelly Yancey > > Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org > > Subject: Using MS on FreeBSD sites > > > > Another point: I write Windows applications for a living. > [ML] > > And for the real kicker: I use FrontPage 98 which means I use Windows > > on > > my desktop. Does that bother you? What should we do about that? > [ML] You should be damned to writing Windows applications for a > living :) > > Now, seriously, who cares what do you use to build the Diary? > Man, use whatever works for you, be pragmatic. And FrontPage editor > definitely beats vi or emacs for HTML, especially tables. Fine tuning > is still best done in a non-WYSIWYG editor. > > > best wishes > [ML] Same here, > /Marino > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message