From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 2 07:03:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D32D16A420; Thu, 2 Mar 2006 07:03:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr17.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr17.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0749143D5A; Thu, 2 Mar 2006 07:03:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by smtp-vbr17.xs4all.nl (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k22733UI043830; Thu, 2 Mar 2006 08:03:03 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k22732HY010635; Thu, 2 Mar 2006 08:03:02 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id k22732eg010634; Thu, 2 Mar 2006 08:03:02 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wb) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 08:03:02 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Poul-Henning Kamp Message-ID: <20060302070302.GB10564@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <200603011724.08214.jhb@freebsd.org> <15841.1141279248@critter.freebsd.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <15841.1141279248@critter.freebsd.dk> X-OS: FreeBSD 6.1-PRERELEASE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: Mike Jakubik , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Still seeing "calcru: runtime went backwards" messages X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 07:03:12 -0000 On Thu, Mar 02, 2006 at 06:00:48AM +0000, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote.. > In message <200603011724.08214.jhb@freebsd.org>, John Baldwin writes: > > >Maybe we could make the dynamic flag for the tsc controllable via tunable? > > Ideally ACPI would tell us the max TSC frequency and the TSC wouldn't need > to be marked variable. Havn't had time to look at this yet though. > > >If I have a server machine without any fancy pentium-m cpufreq type stuff, > >then I would rather just use the tsc frequency snapshot taken at boot and > >just stick with that as the static frequency then have a bunch of warnings > >on the console if the max freq changes sometime later. > > Right, I would actually prefer to try to make the calibration more precise > first, rather than add yet another knob for roots to remember to tweak. > > >Also, note that > >I am still getting a bunch of the backwards messages on my DS20 Alpha which > >is _not_ using the TSC. :) > > That's interesting... Alpha should be using the timecounter and that > is not marked "variable". > > My alpha hasn't been able to boot in a long time now :-( Bah indeed. Can't you get a DS10 from the ex-package-building cluster? Kris is not using those anymore so my guess(!!!) is that they are sitting idle. -- Wilko Bulte wilko@FreeBSD.org