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Date:      Fri, 19 Jun 2020 11:04:02 +0200
From:      =?UTF-8?Q?Fernando_Apestegu=C3=ADa?= <fernape@freebsd.org>
To:        Adam Weinberger <adamw@adamw.org>
Cc:        ports-committers <ports-committers@freebsd.org>, svn-ports-all <svn-ports-all@freebsd.org>,  svn-ports-head <svn-ports-head@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r539531 - in head/security: . vigenere
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On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 9:49 AM Adam Weinberger <adamw@adamw.org> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 1:25 AM Fernando Apestegu=C3=ADa <fernape@freebsd=
.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 8:49 AM Adam Weinberger <adamw@adamw.org> wrote=
:
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 12:57 AM Fernando Apestegu=C3=ADa
> > > <fernape@freebsd.org> wrote:
> > > > +WWW: https://www.olivermahmoudi.com/programming/vigenere-cipher/
> > >
> > > Hi Fernando,
> > >
> > > That WWW is 404, and there's no mention of the software on Oliver's w=
ebsite.
> >
> > Hi Adam!
> >
> > I'm pretty sure I checked that, but maybe I missed it?. I will open a
> > PR asking him about it.
> >
> > >
> > > Is this cipher actively used for modern practical purposes? If not,
> > > this sounds like a programming exercise and I'm not sure why it'd nee=
d
> > > a port.
> >
> > Before including the new port I checked Oliver was the maintainer of
> > other ports, some of which I had incidentally committed to recently
> > (sysutils/mapdir).
> > Some of his ports include security/caesarcipher that I assume nobody
> > uses for modern practical purposes either :-) It also happens he is
> > the original writer of the four ports he maintains.
> >
> > I read the Committers Guide about new ports
> > (https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/committers-guide/=
article.html#ports-qa-adding)
> > in search of policy but couldn't find any.
> >
> > Should submitters "make a case" for the new port to be included?
> > Should the committer refuse if he/she evaluates the software is not
> > useful enough?
>
> Yes, that is a central part of the committer's role. Choosing how to
> shape the ports tree is far more critical than committing the PRs to
> get there. I don't ask submitters to make a case, but if I reject a PR
> I certainly give the submitter a chance to change my mind.
>
> FreeBSD isn't a museum, and software that nobody is ever going to use
> places unnecessary burdens on the builders, on end-user ports tree
> disk space usage, and clutters results when end-users search for
> software. I'd charitably estimate that 20% of the software in the
> ports tree was installed in the last year. And maybe 60% over the last
> 10 years. We could easily take out half the ports and nobody would
> ever notice.
>
> If submitted software appears insufficiently useful, incomplete, or of
> suspiciously poor quality, please reject it. (I haven't investigated
> the code here, nor that of any other of Oliver's ports, so I'm not
> trying to suggest you do so here.)

OK, I will do it. Thanks for the clarification.

For reference, the PR requesting fixing security/vigenere WWW is
https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D247404

Cheers
>
> # Adam
>
>
> --
> Adam Weinberger
> adamw@adamw.org
> https://www.adamw.org



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