From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 3 02:36:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EDFE10656EF for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2008 02:36:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@HiWAAY.net) Received: from bee.hiwaay.net (bee.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2996E8FC19 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2008 02:36:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@HiWAAY.net) Received: from [10.0.0.183] ([216.186.148.249]) (authenticated bits=0) by bee.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m532aY221324325 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 2 Jun 2008 21:36:36 -0500 (CDT) From: David Kelly To: Ted Mittelstaedt In-Reply-To: References: <48433E2E.3070004@telenix.org> Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v924) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 21:36:34 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.924) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Duplex printer advice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD Questions List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 02:36:38 -0000 On Mon, Jun 02, 2008 at 02:03:30PM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > Inkjet color printing is NEVER cheaper. > > Color laser is what you want. There are some really good inexpensive > units out there. I recall reading the inexpensieve Samsung color > laser even speaks Postscript. > > The only time inkjet makes sense is if your printing needs for your > lifetime consist of a single ream of paper. Or if you want photo quality. > My HP Laserjet 4+ at home is the oldest operating piece of computer > equipment I have. And I fully expect it to last another decade, and > once it dies, I have another one in the basement that I picked up for > $50 - WITH a duplexer. We have one at work that if it was up to me I too would sell it for $50 if anyone offered. Its a networked color HP 4M something that prints 11" wide. Letter prints sideways, and 11x17 prints lengthwise. Its slower than Christmas when printing photos. Maybe 2 pages per hour. We keep it because 1) its paid for, 2) we have space for it, and 3) it prints very pretty color text for proposals. We have a networked inkjet HP all-in-one sitting next to the laser for when photos are more important. And a Kyocera all-in-one laser for B&W. > The reason the printer mfgrs love inkjets is that not only is the cost > per page far higher, necessitating frequent ink cartridge changes, but > the ink cartridges themselves dry up and stop working, and the > printers jam, strip gears, and stop working. Thus you are able to > sell the person printer after printer. All of the above applies to lasers. > If you look at laserjet sales, the only movement on the printers Laserjet is an HP trademark. > When I visit Fry's every once in a while and overhear people > discussing what printer to buy, I love to drag them over to the > salesguy's little kiosk and point out the HP Laserjet 8000n behind the > counter, which occupies just about all free space in the kiosk. An HP8000 (and 4000, 4050, 5000) are excellent industrial grade laser printers. HP makes very few industrial grade inkjets, generally not found at Frys. HP also makes cheap-as-dirt lasers such as the HP-1020. > I ask them, why would Fry's stick this giant printer behind the > counter, and suck up all free space if a small "personal" printer > occuping so much less space was as good of a deal? If anyone working the Frys showroom floor was capable of answering that question then they are grossly over qualified. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad.