From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 20 19:03:06 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCFB416A41F; Tue, 20 Sep 2005 19:03:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from fileserver.fields.utoronto.ca (fileserver.fields.utoronto.ca [128.100.216.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BE9043D45; Tue, 20 Sep 2005 19:03:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from fields.fields.utoronto.ca (fields.localdomain [192.168.216.11]) by fileserver.fields.utoronto.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Fields 6.0) with ESMTP id j8KJ350r008188 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 20 Sep 2005 15:03:05 -0400 Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fields.fields.utoronto.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Fields WS 6.0) with ESMTP id j8KJ326P018353; Tue, 20 Sep 2005 15:03:02 -0400 Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1EA0051288; Tue, 20 Sep 2005 15:03:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 15:03:00 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: Daniel Eischen Message-ID: <20050920190300.GA94596@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <433058CB.60807@samsco.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="azLHFNyN32YCQGCU" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: Threading/KSE problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 19:03:06 -0000 --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Sep 20, 2005 at 02:55:50PM -0400, Daniel Eischen wrote: > On Tue, 20 Sep 2005, Scott Long wrote: >=20 > > Daniel Eischen wrote: > > > > > > Sure, symbol versioning would be great to have, but I still don't > > > know why library versions are bumped when they don't need to be. > > > It's like we've thrown up our hands and said "Something has changed > > > in one or more of the libraries, and we don't know how this affects > > > other libraries, so we're going to bump them all." Speaking for > > > the thread libraries, they were not users of any of the changed > > > ABIs -- there was no reason to bump them. > > > > > > > We have a very strong history of making changes in our base libraries > > that have very unintended consequences. >=20 > And as far as I can recall, we have ironed them all out in -current > before any release. >=20 > > Try running the Java binaries > > for 4.x, the only ones that we are certified to distribute, on 5.x or > > 6.x. >=20 > Why? Do they not work with the compat libraries installed? No, they're completely useless thesedays except on 4.x. Kris --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDMFzjWry0BWjoQKURAqhDAKCPnzQBN/qGPBlgyDCQFGA9YR4KtQCdHhhZ yjQgVouydtaIEpORllBv8yA= =hReb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU--