From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 20 07:07:01 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A553A16A4CE for ; Tue, 20 Apr 2004 07:07:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hanoi.cronyx.ru (hanoi.cronyx.ru [144.206.181.53]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A714243D39 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 2004 07:07:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rik@cronyx.ru) Received: (from root@localhost) by hanoi.cronyx.ru id i3KE5999046668 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org.checked; (8.12.8/vak/2.1) Tue, 20 Apr 2004 18:05:09 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from rik@cronyx.ru) Received: from cronyx.ru (hi.cronyx.ru [144.206.181.94]) by hanoi.cronyx.ru with ESMTP id i3KE2pWE046534; (8.12.8/vak/2.1) Tue, 20 Apr 2004 18:02:52 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from rik@cronyx.ru) Message-ID: <40852DAF.7090406@cronyx.ru> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 18:03:27 +0400 From: Roman Kurakin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.6b) Gecko/20031208 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bruce M Simpson References: <20040414155525.GD562@jenny.daemon.li> <20040419183108.L47248@carver.gumbysoft.com> <40851021.6090706@cronyx.ru> <20040420121523.GA18177@empiric.dek.spc.org> In-Reply-To: <20040420121523.GA18177@empiric.dek.spc.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Josef El-Rayes cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: small note to GENERIC for isa dependency X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 14:07:01 -0000 Bruce M Simpson wrote: >On Tue, Apr 20, 2004 at 03:57:21PM +0400, Roman Kurakin wrote: > > >>Ok. If I don't have ISA at all, what is bad in idea to remove it from >>config file? >> >> > >The problem is that ISA and the i386 architecture are still intimately >involved. It's probably hidden away as something called LPC on yours. :-) > > Lets imaging that I don't know internals. Lets imaging that I am very young. I didn't see ISA bus ever in my life. I only know that it was :-) So I started to work with FreeBSD in a modern world, on a modern hardware. Why should I expect that modern code of modern operation system should use unmodern ISA that is dead. I understand how world is complex. But I dont see anything bad in this expectation. Especially from those who do not know details. I don't want to say that we surely need to remove those dependances. I only want to say that this is normal wish to remove device "isa" as a "hardware missing in my modern box", cause I open it and see nothing except PCI slots. (I know, by evolution of this theory we could came to the situation where we check out box and suddenly realize that we do not have npx device. :-) ) By the way, since we have many device entries that implicitly depend on others, we might wish to have some mechanism to check those dependances or even complete them as we complete packages list during installation. rik >BMS >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > >