From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Mar 11 21:18:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from klapaucius.zer0.org (klapaucius.zer0.org [204.152.186.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8FFA37B738 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 21:18:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gsutter@zer0.org) Received: by klapaucius.zer0.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 83633239A54; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 21:18:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 21:18:08 -0800 From: Gregory Sutter To: Peter Seebach Cc: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: if_fxp - the real point Message-ID: <20010311211808.C9369@klapaucius.zer0.org> References: <200103110348.f2B3m3N03479@mass.dis.org> <200103110356.f2B3ub210567@guild.plethora.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200103110356.f2B3ub210567@guild.plethora.net>; from seebs@plethora.net on Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 09:56:37PM -0600 Organization: daemonnews Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001-03-10 21:56 -0600, Peter Seebach wrote: > > Out of idle curiousity, has the NIH syndrome died down enough that > it might hypothetically be possible for the three major *BSD camps > to cooperate on this kind of thing? Form an organization the purpose > of which is to get access to driver docs *for all three systems*? An > organization which can claim to represent 2N or 3N users, instead of > N, *might* be able to get people to listen more closely... Especially > if it maintained a page describing hardware and vendor relations, and > a lot of people got in the habit of linking to it. Does Intel care > if there's a page saying "Intel has refused to provide specs, so we > are obliged to recommend Frobozz Magic Ethernet instead"? Probably > not, but they *might*. More than they care about mutterings on mailing > lists, certainly. Peter, This sounds like something that Daemon News might be able to help with. Are you interested in spending some time on it? Our staff is stretched very thin right now and can't really take on any more projects without additional volunteers. If you or another interested party has the time, though, I think that the attempt should be made and that Daemon News is the right umbrella for it. Greg -- Gregory S. Sutter The measure of a man is the way mailto:gsutter@daemonnews.org he bears up under misfortune. http://www.daemonnews.org/ --Plutarch hkp://wwwkeys.pgp.net/0x845DFEDD To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message