From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 31 11:02:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39C2A16A4CE for ; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 11:02:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C2D643D46 for ; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 11:02:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (cicely5.cicely.de [10.1.1.7]) (authenticated bits=0)j2VB2Hsf037668 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK); Thu, 31 Mar 2005 13:02:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely12.cicely.de (cicely12.cicely.de [IPv6:3ffe:400:8d0:301::12]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2VB1vhs012318 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 31 Mar 2005 13:01:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely12.cicely.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cicely12.cicely.de (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j2VB1vUO002240; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 13:01:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely12.cicely.de (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j2VB1vLs002239; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 13:01:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 13:01:57 +0200 From: Bernd Walter To: Scott Long Message-ID: <20050331110156.GA2072@cicely12.cicely.de> References: <20050331014311.GA96606@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20050331103614.GL33677@cicely12.cicely.de> <424BD3E6.2040002@samsco.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <424BD3E6.2040002@samsco.org> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely12.cicely.de 5.2-CURRENT alpha User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.9 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_10 autolearn=no version=2.64 X-Spam-Report: * -0.9 BAYES_10 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 10 to 20% * [score: 0.1137] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on cicely12.cicely.de cc: Wilko Bulte cc: ticso@cicely.de cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: So, who makes this one run FreeBSD? ;-) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: ticso@cicely.de List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 11:02:28 -0000 On Thu, Mar 31, 2005 at 03:41:42AM -0700, Scott Long wrote: > Bernd Walter wrote: > >On Thu, Mar 31, 2005 at 03:43:12AM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > >>http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS8386088053.html > > > > > >As others already said - to small to run FreeBSD. > >No MMU, very tight RAM and code space. > >Note that they are not based on Linux, but on uCLinux, which is > >something different. > >RTEMS should be a good candidate - it is not Linux, but unfortunately > >has large portions under GPL too. > >But considered the small price distance to the smallest Soekris, > >which runs FreeBSD, only the size and supply power is an interesting > >point. > > > > An MMU-less port of any BSD would be very worthwhile, even if it > requires a radical divergence from the original codebase. I was > hoping that such a treat would appear out of NetBSD, but that doesn't > seem to be the case. It's a matter on how far you want to go. There are many MMU and GPL less solutions available. The following can be considered as the other extrem end: uIP, lwIP, Nut/OS, ... Just having the essential to run network based services. There is very much room of what people might expect from systems with more features. -- B.Walter BWCT http://www.bwct.de bernd@bwct.de info@bwct.de