From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Mar 14 2:20:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f113.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F28FE37B741 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 02:20:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from the_hermit665@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 59887 invoked by uid 0); 14 Mar 2000 10:20:34 -0000 Message-ID: <20000314102034.59886.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 63.226.227.73 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 02:20:34 PST X-Originating-IP: [63.226.227.73] Reply-To: the_hermit665@hotmail.com From: "Cosmic 665" To: cwalker@computech-ca.com, dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Good unix books [was: FreeBSD] Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 02:20:34 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have done exactly what you are talking about. If you wanna know how to setup a unix gateway/router, just let me know. I'll need to know the following 1. what kinda machine you have (processor, etc.) 2. what kinda connection you have (DSL, cable, etc.) 3. will the router/gateway be using 2 nics or one? 4. do you know howto compile a kernel? 5. which freebsd version you are running send this to me in a *private* email (or this mailing list, it really doesn't matter to me). I'll send you some examples of how to setup a router/gateway and you can play with them all you want :) Here's some things you need to know: FOR 3.2 & 3.4-RELEASE 1. rc.conf located in your /etc dir can be edited. This file contain a lot of the services needed at startup. 2, rc.conf in /etc/defaults/ I NOT TO BE TOUCHED!!! the rc.conf file in the /etc contains the OVERRIDES. Meaning, you will see things like "# -- sysinstall generated deltas -- #". this mean these are the overides to the /etc/defaults/rc.conf needed at startup. where it says "ifconfig" is where you edit you NIC card ex. ifconfig_ep0 can be changeded to ifconfig_de0... etc. NOTE: (edit the "ep0" & "de0" to your own nic) the ifconfig line is the main "configure" paramater for you network cards. to enable nat, add the line natd_enable="YES" to your rc.conf file. You will also need the natd_interface="ep0" to configure it to whichever nic (keep in mind you have to edit the "ep0" part to your own personal nic). gateway_enable="YES" in you rc.conf file turns you machine into a gateway. router_enable="YES" turns on routing. I belive the router_enable="YES" differs from gateway_enable="YES" in a sense that you can configure more advanced routing options. defaultrouter="xx.xx.xx.xx" sets up the gateway of the connection for the gateway box *If needed* (don't use this address on your *client* boxes becuase they may not be able to see it). Then all you have to do is configure all your client boxes to the IP of the Gateway/freeBSD box. If you need any further help, email me. also, visit: http://www.vmunix.com/fbsd-book/ for some basic help. I'm gonna have a website (soon maybe) containing all the info a *newbie* needs on setting up various configurations under FreeBSD. -cosmic-665 >One of my main objectives is this very thing. There are many "single" >things >that I would like to do. For instance, I have an NT Server at home. I am >running proxy server on it just so that the other computers can get out >through >the Cable. This just beats the hell out of this pile of crap NT box. Not >to >mention the problem in getting other computers that are not Microsoft to >connect >to the Internet is almost impossible. Making a NAT router out of the UNIX >box >it the first thing I am going to work on. This step by step documentation >does >not exsist as far as I know so far. These kind of things would be helpful >in >the Docs. Then when this part is finished I would like to go on to other >things >like making a DNS server using the bind specs. In the process of doing >this I >would like to make documentation that is easy to understand for "Newbies" >like >myself. > >I think I have found my way to contribute to this awesome project! Thank >You >all! If I am way off base though let me know because I am new here. > >Caleb > >Doug Young wrote: > > > I'll second that .... there's no question that the FreeBSD documentation > > is light years ahead of the near totally unintelligible linux >equivalents, > > and the assistance provided by many mailing list regulars is among the >best > > of its kind anywhere, but unfortunately even the best of the presently > > available entry level FreeBSD docs (the handbook / Complete FreeBSD) >still > > fall short of what many newbies need .... proof of this is seen the > > avalanche of "how do I do blah" questions to the various mailing lists. >What > > I see as a partial solution is for newbies to be more involved in the >docs > > list ... possibly then the things can be made sufficiently explicit for > > those of us looking for a step_by_step rendition of how to configure >blah > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "John Daniel" > > To: "Sue Blake" > > Cc: "Greg Lehey" ; "Cosmic 665" >; > > ; > > Sent: Friday, March 10, 2000 5:17 AM > > Subject: Re: Good unix books [was: FreeBSD] > > > > > I want to do "stuff" and I want a book to show me how to do these >things > > > and why with out drowning me in dry detail. Of course my dry detail is > > > someone elses vital fact. > > > > > > I came to freebsd because i needed it to use it for work. The person >who > > > introduced me to it was/is a "RTFM" guy but more and more I find that > > > there isn't a manual that a beginner can go to and get stuff done. > > > > > > i like freeBSD and I like the people that use it. But it can be > > > frustating getting the hang of it. for me a computer is not much >goood > > > with out applications and the ability to get work done. Printing,word > > > proccessing, surfing,emailinh, sharing files with computers on the >network > > > are > > > essential. But it can be hard to get those basic functions done. For > > > example, recently I started a 3.3.4 box and started installing ports >to > > > get some functionality. > > > > > > I installed X,KDE,Netscape, Gimp and got them to work after a fashion( > > > more experience configuring them will help ) and I'm working on vnc, > > > samba, wordperfect ,lpr, xpdf. > > > > > > vnc installing the port doesn't install vnc you have to install. it >with a > > > file in one of the sub directories. If it wasn't for James on the >newbies > > > list i would still be struggling trying to figure out why it didn't >work.( > > > Thanks James) > > > > > > samba need to get the damons running and configured. > > > > > > Wordperfect down loaded. need to figure out how to update the MD5 file >so > > > the match the release I downloaded.So I can get the install to >complete. > > > > > > xpdf same as wordperfect > > > > > > lpr set it up once on another box need to do some reading. > > > > > > What i want from a book on unix is how to turn Freebsd once it's >installed > > > into a working whatever. I'd be interested in seeing Sue's book though >I > > > think she'd be better of writing booklets on how to take a basic set >up > > > and turn it into gateway workstation, game station, file server or > > > whatever so what you get is what you want. Oh and How about something >on > > > figuring out what the heck what went wrong when something doesn't work > > > that's generally how I learn the most. How about a nice booklet on > > > scripting so i could figure out out how to break stuff that ain't > > > fixed....rant ,rant > > > > > > RTFM some days I can't even find the manual. > > > Nuf said. :-) > > > > > > > > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ----- > > > > > > "I hope that after I die, people will say of me : " That guy sure owed >me > > > a lot of money." > > > > > > -JH > > > > > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ----- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message