From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 22 02:45:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BF8F4232; Sun, 22 Dec 2013 02:45:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ipmail07.adl2.internode.on.net (ipmail07.adl2.internode.on.net [IPv6:2001:44b8:8060:ff02:300:1:2:7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0692115EC; Sun, 22 Dec 2013 02:45:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ppp121-45-99-20.lns20.adl6.internode.on.net (HELO leader.local) ([121.45.99.20]) by ipmail07.adl2.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 22 Dec 2013 13:15:00 +1030 Message-ID: <52B6522C.8050209@ShaneWare.Biz> Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2013 13:15:00 +1030 From: Shane Ambler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Kargl , Baptiste Daroussin Subject: Re: PACKAGESITE spam References: <52B5DF8C.5050204@gmx.com> <20131221200538.GA60827@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20131221201026.GB1730@glenbarber.us> <20131221201403.GB60827@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20131221210553.GA61158@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <52B60727.8090001@bluerosetech.com> <20131221213959.GA61238@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20131221221439.GA59524@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> <20131221230448.GA61511@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> In-Reply-To: <20131221230448.GA61511@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Darren Pilgrim X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2013 02:45:04 -0000 On 22/12/2013 09:34, Steve Kargl wrote: > On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 11:14:39PM +0100, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: >> >> this has been done and activated for reason, first for lot of companies, > > companies can turn it on it they want it. Generally the more secure option is default, you can turn off security options as you choose. >> secondly I receive tons of request to actiavte on by default while >> you are the first to request it off by default > > I certainly can't refute 'tons of [private] requests'. There is > no discussing of such logging in freebsd-current, freebsd-hackers, > or freebsd-ports lists. > > Other than the noise in /var/log/message, what does this provide > that 'pkg info' doesn't! Please turn of this feature by default. > Isn't this "noise" the same as we had with the old package system? So really nothing has changed, well now we can turn it off which I don't think we could before.