From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 8 15:00:26 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 901597DE for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2014 15:00:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.rcn.com (smtp.rcn.com [69.168.97.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C2A511DB for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2014 15:00:25 +0000 (UTC) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=Bvqkn+n5 c=1 sm=0 tr=0 a=xXl4FTO5CL8aVpVBagTHLA==:117 a=xXl4FTO5CL8aVpVBagTHLA==:17 a=K-v-2zaBAAAA:8 a=eXnlHukMzTYA:10 a=b15YM1rgWm8A:10 a=YNqtyO0l_hcA:10 a=LaogzpLLAAAA:8 a=7oF49_t5QHsA:10 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=9iDbn-4jx3cA:10 a=cKsnjEOsciEA:10 a=rEuKQXwRKGzzatxGiNMA:9 a=pyTEsq0OcFbY5AnF:21 a=C9kTHmDuoRYIAt80:21 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=Ltl7MLEsSgw5xiCYvFEA:9 a=LHb4GlYFl6wXPXs2:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.rcn.cmh.synacor.com header.from=mi+apache@aldan.algebra.com; sender-id=neutral Authentication-Results: smtp01.rcn.cmh.synacor.com smtp.mail=mi+apache@aldan.algebra.com; spf=neutral; sender-id=neutral Authentication-Results: smtp01.rcn.cmh.synacor.com smtp.user=anat; auth=pass (PLAIN) Received-SPF: neutral (smtp01.rcn.cmh.synacor.com: 74.102.116.237 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of aldan.algebra.com) Received: from [74.102.116.237] ([74.102.116.237:11937] helo=[192.168.1.8]) by smtp.rcn.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.49 r(42060/42061)) with ESMTPA id E9/D5-09460-8086DC25; Wed, 08 Jan 2014 10:00:24 -0500 Message-ID: <52CD6808.1080307@aldan.algebra.com> Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2014 10:00:24 -0500 From: Mikhail T User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Wemm Subject: Re: md2 on current and 10. References: <52B392D9.4030507@aldan.algebra.com> <52B483D7.7080302@gmx.de> <52B486AD.7080102@aldan.algebra.com> <52B48E8C.5070804@gmx.de> <52BB2979.5040008@aldan.algebra.com> In-Reply-To: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 08 Jan 2014 17:26:10 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 Cc: olli hauer , Current FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2014 15:00:26 -0000 On 08.01.2014 02:54, Peter Wemm wrote: >> > Could we, please, have MD2 resurrected before 10.0 is officially out? >> > Preferably in both -lmd and -lcrypto, but certainly in the former. Thank >> > you! Yours, > The time to bring this up was before the freeze for 10.0, a good 6+ > months ago. It is way too late now. First of all, Peter, are you talking as a core-member, or expressing personal opinion? In any case, I'd say it is not entirely fair to blame me for reporting a problem "late" -- without any apologies about causing it in the first place... But is it really "too late" to add such a small piece back to where it was? I'm not talking about resurrecting uucp here... Meanwhile, any existing MD2-using application will simply break after upgrade -- does that not bother anyone? If the code was removed after 19 years in the tree, is 6 months really "too late" to resurrect it? > However.. the code in libmd had had a non-commercial use restriction.. > Even if it wasn't too late, that code won't be back. That restriction was not (enough of) a problem for 20 years (since 1994) -- and still is not in 9.x and 8.x. But, Ok... > Your best bet is to create a crypto/libmd2 port. Start with the code > from openssl. Adding such a port increases the number of hoops for any user to jump through -- and the maintenance costs. Whereas the cost of simply adjusting the base OpenSSL's configuration to include MD2 functionality is virtually zero -- a single additional file file will be back (md2.h), and no new libraries... OpenSSL port offers MD2 as an option -- surely the base version can have that same option flipped on without breaking anything. Yours, -mi