From owner-freebsd-chat Wed May 23 10: 9:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from sharmas.dhs.org (cpe-66-1-147-119.ca.sprintbbd.net [66.1.147.119]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E53237B42C for ; Wed, 23 May 2001 10:09:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from arun@sharmas.dhs.org) Received: from OMNI (unknown [192.168.1.100]) by sharmas.dhs.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EB7FA5DF2F for ; Wed, 23 May 2001 10:05:26 -0700 (PDT) From: "Arun Sharma" To: Subject: Reiser: BSD cliques Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 10:09:18 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org http://steven.haryan.to/interview-hans-reiser.html So this is the nth time, I've heard the same allegation. Is anything being done to address it ? In particular, the openness of the development process. I sent serveral patches to the kernel to -hackers during the last year or two. All of them were send-pr'ed too. But not one of them made it into the kernel. Neither were they rejected based on some technical reasoning. I found that this was not true in some of the less "core" areas. Several of my contributions to -ports were accepted and PRs actively worked on. I personally think that it is more due to indifference than xenophobia. I've said this before too on -hackers, witout a response. I know people work on a voluntary basis, work on what's interesting to them, rather than sifting through loads of PRs. Some thoughts: - Instead of having a "kern" category in gnats, break it down to smaller subsystems and have people "own" subsystems (I know this exists, informally). - If this isn't addressed well, sooner or later, some motivated hot head somewhere, who doesn't like GPL is going to fork FreeBSD and I'd hate to see that happen. - send-pr web interface is not very usable right now. I can't attach a patch easily for eg. I've offered to fix it in the past, again no response. I really hope people will look at this as something more than a flamebait and look into it seriously. I can't help mentioning Linux in this context, but it's just too relevant to ignore. -Arun To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message