From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Nov 7 6:13:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mail.monmouth.com (mail.monmouth.com [209.191.58.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06EA037B4D7 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 06:13:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from bg-tc-ppp59.monmouth.com (bg-tc-ppp59.monmouth.com [209.191.60.60]) by mail.monmouth.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA09424 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 09:13:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from pechter@localhost) by bg-tc-ppp59.monmouth.com (8.11.1/8.9.3) id eA7EG1u05595 for freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 09:16:01 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from pechter) From: Bill Pechter Message-Id: <200011071416.eA7EG1u05595@bg-tc-ppp59.monmouth.com> Subject: NT Microkernel In-Reply-To: from freebsd-chat-digest at "Nov 6, 2000 11:18:49 pm" To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 09:16:01 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: bpechter@shell.monmouth.com X-Phone-Number: 732-935-0629 X-OS-Type: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL66 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 00:06:31 +0000 (GMT) > From: Terry Lambert > Subject: Re: Microsoft Source (fwd) > > > www.mslinux.org is obviously a spoof, but very clever and amusing. The GPL > > would not allow Microsoft to pirate Linux code and sell it Microsoft style. > > > > At least I don't think so, but I once read that WINNT uses the Mach > > microkernel, which has a license very similar to the GPL. Can anybody > > comment? > > Microsoft claimed that NT had a "microkernel architecture"; it > really doesn't, but that was the set of buzzwords that were > popular and "modern" aqt the time. I guess you could claim > that having a huge number of VXDs could, in a wild stretch, be > referred to as a "microkernel architecture". NT is definitely > not based on MACH; its closest relative is VMS (same architect). > > > Terry Lambert > terry@lambert.org Actually, it's pretty close to a project Cutler worked on at DEC... Involving a VAX/VMS follow-up OS called Prism -- on RISC cpu's... (One of which -- DEC's PRISM CPU -- was later morphed into the ALPHA/AXP (axp standing for Almost eXactly PRISM). Which is why there was a pretty large DEC<-->MS deal where DEC got a ton of their field folks MS trained and Certified on MS products for 0$$$ and MS got a bit more of the DEC cluster code and a look at the v7.x VMS stuff. This was back when GQ Bob Palmer (who was better with Emerson and Lake 8-( btw ) was running DEC into the ground. Had DEC gone to court and done the big fight with MS and Intel, they might not be COMPAQ today. DEC killed the project (1988) and after a while Cutler and a lot of the DEC Western Research Lab in Washington moved down the road to Redmond to do NT. (Some of this info is in the book Showstopper)... http://www.microsoft.com/WINDOWS2000/news/fromms/kanoarchitect.asp Bill To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message