From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Apr 20 15:15:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA20748 for chat-outgoing; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 15:15:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.konnections.com (mail.konnections.com [192.41.71.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA20743 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 15:15:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from castle (root@ip214.konnections.com [192.41.71.214]) by mail.konnections.com (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id QAA00283; Sun, 20 Apr 1997 16:14:11 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <335BF375.13483718@konnections.com> Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 16:08:37 -0700 From: mike allison Organization: Publisher -- Burning Eagle Book Company X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; Linux 2.0.0 i486) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wes Peters CC: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , chat@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: UNIX sysadmin GUI (was: Price of FreeBSD) References: <5354.861482487@time.cdrom.com> <199704201949.NAA07925@obie.softweyr.ml.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-chat@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Wes Peters wrote: > > Sorry, I just couldn't stay out of this. I once spent a significant > portion of my time and personal energy to designing something along the > lines of what Jordan is discussing here, and would like to offer my > insight. > > Jordan K. Hubbard writes: > > > By `fancy setup and configuration tools' I sure hope you don't mean NT's > > > install that blew up on us probing an Adaptec 1542. We tried to let it > > > > No, of course not. That would be deliberate stupidity and I'm not > > talking about anything like that. > > > > Also, the UNIX traditionalists should please bear in mind that such an > > interface would NOT BE DESIGNED FOR THEM. > > Well, perhaps even the gurus would use it to do the simple, day-to-day > stuff. The important part to understand is that the command line tools > and configuration files would remain the same. This is what I meant about NT. I think the AddUser facility in NT is fine. I think a lot of the ROUTINE stuff is fine, but there are times when it's easier and more straightforward to get the command line or a terminal. But, I also copped a caveat by saying maybe it was just that the NT GUI was strange to me and I need to learn to appreciate it..... -Mike