From owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 13 08:45:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDECE949 for ; Sat, 13 Apr 2013 08:45:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from njm@njm.me.uk) Received: from smtp003.apm-internet.net (smtp003.apm-internet.net [85.119.248.52]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C3068AA for ; Sat, 13 Apr 2013 08:45:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 29208 invoked from network); 13 Apr 2013 08:39:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO meld.njm.me.uk) (86.159.26.144) by smtp003.apm-internet.net with SMTP; 13 Apr 2013 08:39:12 -0000 Received: from titania.njm.me.uk (titania.njm.me.uk [192.168.144.130]) by meld.njm.me.uk (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r3D8dBbL016840; Sat, 13 Apr 2013 09:39:11 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from njm@njm.me.uk) Received: from titania.njm.me.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by titania.njm.me.uk (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r3D8dBsC075480; Sat, 13 Apr 2013 09:39:11 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from njm@njm.me.uk) Received: (from njm@localhost) by titania.njm.me.uk (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) id r3D8dALq075479; Sat, 13 Apr 2013 09:39:10 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from njm@njm.me.uk) Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 09:39:10 +0100 From: "N.J. Mann" To: Quartz Subject: Re: A failed drive causes system to hang Message-ID: <20130413083910.GA73903@titania.njm.me.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Quartz , freebsd-fs@freebsd.org References: <51672164.1090908@o2.pl> <41A207817BC94167B0C94133EC0DFD68@multiplay.co.uk> <51687881.4080005@o2.pl> <20130412212207.GA81897@icarus.home.lan> <5168864A.2090602@sneakertech.com> <20130412222005.GA82884@icarus.home.lan> <516912E0.8080708@sneakertech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <516912E0.8080708@sneakertech.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.3-STABLE User-Agent: mutt-NJM (2010-10-31) Cc: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Filesystems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 08:45:55 -0000 In message <516912E0.8080708@sneakertech.com>, Quartz (quartz@sneakertech.com) wrote: > > > My point is that the PC-BSD folks need to be made aware of this issue, > > so their iXSystems folks can help out if necessary and so on. If > > they're left out of the loop, then that's bad for everyone. > > I was under the impression that pcbsd was entirely an "apps and UI" > thing, and that low level stuff like cam or zfs wouldn't be their area > of expertise, or even really their responsibility since they're not > messing with any of that. They have made changes to the way the system boots, e.g. files in /etc/rc.d have be changed and some of the loader's Forth files. While this may have no impact in this particular case it may be relevant in other cases where users of PC-BSD are experiencing problems. Cheers, Nick, --