From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Apr 9 20:50:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA21375 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 20:50:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (shell.futuresouth.com [198.78.58.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA21309; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 20:50:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fullermd@futuresouth.com) Received: from localhost (fullermd@localhost) by shell.futuresouth.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA12675; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 22:49:47 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 22:49:46 -0500 (CDT) From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: David Shanes , Brett Glass , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" In-Reply-To: <3980.892169423@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > I was told by Eric Raymond (whom I met briefly at the Mozilla party) > that the *BSD people were deliberately excluded because there were too > many BSDs and they didn't want to get involved in any political issues > over it. I find these continuous allegations of the BSD world being > gratuitously and needlessly "split" (even though each *BSD seeks to > fill a different niche) by the Linux community to be rather tiresome > considering the amount of division in their own ranks and can only see > this as something of a double standard, but I've long since given up > on any hope of fair play from this particular crowd. > > This and several other incidents of a similar nature has pretty much > convinced me that this crowd would rather prefer it if we really > didn't exist at all and is going to essentially conduct their > operations as if we didn't. Oh well. Perhaps it *IS* time to go on > the PR offensive here ("Why Linux doesn't work") since playing nice > guys hasn't appeared to have won us anything but lots of nice comments > from folks like Marc A. at netscape to the effect that "Linux is the > only free OS alternative." I'm getting tired of that, and if it's > going to take "breaking ranks" with the rest of the free OS community > to get our own message out, maybe it's time. > > Jordan Hot damn. Where do I sign up? "FreeBSD Marketing: Who Do You Want To Picket And Beat To Death With Stats Today?" Bad Matt, back in the closet... *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* | FreeBSD; the way computers were meant to be | * "The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, is * | that I haven't figured out how to light the middle yet."| * fullermd@futuresouth.com :-} MAtthew Fuller * | http://keystone.westminster.edu/~fullermd | *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message