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Date:      Fri, 31 Dec 2021 20:54:37 +0000
From:      bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org
To:        x11@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   [Bug 237544] graphics/drm-fbsd12.0-kmod: panic on 12-STABLE with Radeon HD 7450 (but not with drm-fbsd11.2-kmod)
Message-ID:  <bug-237544-7141-dZoeqeq94v@https.bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/>
In-Reply-To: <bug-237544-7141@https.bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/>
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--- Comment #12 from sigsys@gmail.com ---
(In reply to Emmanuel Vadot from comment #9)
Yeah thanks for your work on this. This is clearly hard, complicated work n=
ot a
lot of people could do. With how complex GPUs are (and the hardware variety
there is), I don't see how else it could be done than by making it as easy =
as
possible to integrate existing drivers with as little modifications as
possible. Making new drivers would be an INSANE amount of work...

amdgpu does work a lot better here on an RX560 with pretty much constant us=
e on
13-STABLE. It just works. Pretty much perfectly. The only problem I can not=
ice
is rare, temporary screen corruption sometimes (but I saw those on Windows =
too,
though more rarely).

But radeonkms still panics. As you said it's really old hardware at this po=
int
but it's what's built-in the motherboard of a lot of older computers. The
panics can take days or weeks to happen though and it seems pretty damn ran=
dom.
I can imagine something like this must be hell to debug. And running deskto=
ps
on old computers is probably not something a lot of people are gonna want to
do... It would make more sense to prioritize supporting newer GPUs I suppos=
e.
Though those old Radeon cards can be useful for boards/CPUs without integra=
ted
graphics (especially since we're in a GPUpocalypse right now).

(In reply to Bill Paul from comment #11)
Oh wow seems like you narrowed it down a lot.

radeonkms panics still happened for me on 14-CURRENT (with the corresponding
drm-kmod port). I only noticed them on a test computer that wasn't getting a
lot of desktop use (but that was left on running things) so it's hard to sa=
y if
they were more or less frequent.

When I'm done shuffling hardware I'm gonna get my radeonkms test computer b=
ack
on my desk and leave it running and gather more infos on crashes if that he=
lps.
In my case it wasn't easy to trigger the panics.  It could take a few days.=
 I
could try whatever versions you think might be useful.

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