From owner-svn-src-head@freebsd.org Sun Jun 19 05:31:19 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-head@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A75EA788B6; Sun, 19 Jun 2016 05:31:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@komquats.com) Received: from smtp-out-so.shaw.ca (smtp-out-so.shaw.ca [64.59.136.138]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F11351CC0; Sun, 19 Jun 2016 05:31:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@komquats.com) Received: from spqr.komquats.com ([96.50.22.10]) by shaw.ca with SMTP id EVK9bOiRXN9d0EVKAb4eTu; Sat, 18 Jun 2016 23:31:11 -0600 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=QZUkhYTv c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=jvE2nwUzI0ECrNeyr98KWA==:117 a=jvE2nwUzI0ECrNeyr98KWA==:17 a=L9H7d07YOLsA:10 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=s5jvgZ67dGcA:10 a=pD_ry4oyNxEA:10 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=YxBL1-UpAAAA:8 a=L_FtLdo2QMd5WKjfqdYA:9 a=IjZwj45LgO3ly-622nXo:22 a=Ia-lj3WSrqcvXOmTRaiG:22 Received: from slippy.cwsent.com (slippy [10.1.1.91]) by spqr.komquats.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2E1AF13753; Sat, 18 Jun 2016 22:31:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from slippy (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slippy.cwsent.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id u5J5V84J049670; Sat, 18 Jun 2016 22:31:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com) Message-Id: <201606190531.u5J5V84J049670@slippy.cwsent.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.8.0 04/21/2012 with nmh-1.6 Reply-to: Cy Schubert From: Cy Schubert X-os: FreeBSD X-Sender: cy@cwsent.com X-URL: http://www.cschubert.com/ To: Allan Jude cc: Adrian Chadd , Cy Schubert , Niclas Zeising , "src-committers@freebsd.org" , "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" , "svn-src-head@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: svn commit: r288291 - head/etc In-Reply-To: Message from Allan Jude of "Sat, 18 Jun 2016 23:45:35 -0400." <9ca0ba1b-d9b3-6028-5645-d8d03e730f5e@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 22:31:08 -0700 X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfJoYz4WasfekSuvV3THq/bVs8YiCUJVbLbf10grECaKsaHo661eKwuAKeif0/+y7BbU1gCWMGWrBBEKa+YRw9QCzeUWjDuKE+sOpgzeJ1U6cQJyMUd/S ztXQFlnMUD7DgOb4P1l8RACINVJrMIM/3Qpzlojpq0WcPLKA7ITD9rmSm1ZNSceedPCNkOQNgdsEDGHaS6t//yk3hthOT2IRRumAkYfJvW2tp9erMGoFE3iQ kRQ3PCnxWGbIoqut7RMZGBvM32wY6Tp4/qiUv8mk/ZU5ZjvETsBfY6VeIg6WYGhf42r3biCY0wFoCYQYrwIbNjujyM2Tiy8YC4rLWILHmIXh4qSGKRXA2QZ7 Tlj2DT0a X-BeenThere: svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the src tree for head/-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 05:31:19 -0000 In message <9ca0ba1b-d9b3-6028-5645-d8d03e730f5e@freebsd.org>, Allan Jude write s: > On 2016-06-18 23:32, Adrian Chadd wrote: > > i think that's fine for -11. I'd like to just move limits to /bin for > > 12. (I mean, it's 2016, why are you splitting / and /usr again? But..) > > > > bsdinstall for UFS just uses one big /, and ZFS does something similar > for boot environments. Only people who have partitioned manually, or > upgraded in place from 8.x or earlier, will still have separate / and > /usr. We can't throw those people under the bus, but, it is reasonable > to consider switching things around for 12. This is only an issue legacy systems, systems that have had their disks be installed on faster systems and systems which have been cloned from older systems (dump | restore). There's something to be said about an O/S that doesn't need to be re-imaged every hardware/software upgrade or migration. It's also an issue for systems which have a small local root/ramdisk, and mount /usr via NFS. I managed a setup like this (not FreeBSD) once. -- Cheers, Cy Schubert FreeBSD UNIX: Web: http://www.FreeBSD.org The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few.