From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 7 4:27:34 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AAE337B401; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 04:27:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [64.49.215.141]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76C1243F85; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 04:27:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [64.49.215.141]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EB128B5C0F; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 08:27:27 -0400 (AST) Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 08:27:27 -0400 (AST) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: Vallo Kallaste Cc: David Schultz , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: "leak" in softupdates? In-Reply-To: <20030307101718.GA1908@kevad.internal> Message-ID: <20030307081643.B15693@hub.org> References: <20030305204526.T38115@hub.org> <20030307090033.GA61037@HAL9000.homeunix.com> <20030307101718.GA1908@kevad.internal> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Vallo Kallaste wrote: > On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 01:00:33AM -0800, David Schultz > wrote: > > [...] > > What I really don't understand is how you seem to manage to run > > into more bugs than everyone else. (FYI, the libc_r/KVA_PAGES > > bug is now fixed in -STABLE.) > > He has rather unusual requirements compared to a lot of others. As I > understand he runs hundreds of jails and has thousands of processes, > putting real challenge to VM. All this means that FreeBSD > isn't ready to enterprise yet, no matter what advocacy has to say. > I'm glad Marc hasn't gave up and every now-and-then sends the > findings out to lists, for the benefit of others, particularly > developers. One word about "enterprise"; I'm sure Yahoo and similar > big players run also FreeBSD on "big boxes", but they have real > engineers in the field and have customised installations, I guess. > Off-the-shelf FreeBSD isn't ready yet. As Vallo says above ... the 'bug' that Tor helped me fix this past week, with vnlru_proc, being a good example ... how many ppl are running their server with 132 active mount points? From what I can tell, the bugs I'm hitting are all 'fringe bugs', stuff that you really have to be doing something extreme to hit ... but, as such, if I can get the bug fixed, its also one less bug that has the chance of hurting someone else ... As for 'the enterprise', I think the only thing that I really find about FreeBSD that 'hurts' is that I can't go above the 4Gig of RAM limit within ia32, even though there are boards that do support it ... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message