From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 13 08:38:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AB8016A415 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2006 08:38:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peer.schaefer@hamburg.de) Received: from lee.int-rz.hamburg.de (frontend-1.hamburg.de [212.1.41.126]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C56B43D64 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2006 08:38:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peer.schaefer@hamburg.de) Received: from [85.176.129.0] (helo=[192.168.1.103]) by lee.int-rz.hamburg.de (envelope-from ) with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1GYIYm-0007X2-Dg for freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org; Fri, 13 Oct 2006 10:38:28 +0200 Message-ID: <452F5083.4040904@hamburg.de> Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 10:38:27 +0200 From: Peer Schaefer User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060922) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org References: <4528D502.8040504@hamburg.de> <20061008105109.GB60244@submonkey.net> <4528DC4D.2050201@hamburg.de> <4528DD95.2000808@FreeBSD.org> <452946B2.9030601@hamburg.de> <55360.194.74.82.3.1160488929.squirrel@webmail.evilcoder.org> <452BF79B.70400@hamburg.de> <452D2F3A.2080509@hamburg.de> In-Reply-To: <452D2F3A.2080509@hamburg.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: CDROM-Artwork (5-b) X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 08:38:38 -0000 I received no "vetos", so here is the modified artwork (all in one: 27 high-quality 300dpi PNGs, 27 thumbnail-PNGs with 75dpi, and the SVG-source): http://www.wolldingwacht.de/foss/freebsd/FreeBSD-6.1-CDROM-artwork.tar.bz2 (be duly warned: 17MB download) For a quick look here are some thumbnails: http://www.wolldingwacht.de/foss/freebsd/files_list.html (this URL is "secret"; no artwork is published by me at this time) Best regards, Peer > So, I did a little research (FreeBSD handbook, Google, Wikipedia). > > If I am not wrong, Alpha, AMD64, IA-64 and PC-98x1 are no trademarks > at all (somehow surprising, especially for AMD64). i386 and PowerPC > are trademarks or at least claimed as such (somehow questionable for > "i386" 'cause numbers alone can't be trademarked and the leading "i" > doesn't make it a word). ARM, MIPS and UltraSPARC are registered > trademarks. > > That leads me to this list: > Alpha > AMD64 > ARM(R) > i386[TM] > IA-64 > MIPS(R) > PC-98x1 > PowerPC[TM] > UltraSPARC(R) > > Any vetos? > > Peer > > >> Hi Remko, >> >> no, you are not nagging ;-) Feedback is always welcome, and thanks >> for pointing at this important issue. >> >> I don't agree with you fully, since I didn't USE the trademarks; I >> only REFERRED to them. USING them would require a license; REFERRING >> to them is free (disturbingly, REFERRING to a trademark -- in >> contrast of USING it -- is called "fair use" in anglo-american law, >> which is pretty silly since it is no "use"). If you REFER to a >> trademark you may spell it differently (e.g. "Unix" in stead of >> "UNIX"), as long as you don't degrade or disparage it. Even using the >> funny symbols (R) and (TM) is not mandatory, as long as the context >> makes clear that you don't claim the trademark to be your own or to >> be free. >> >> But -- and now comes the important part -- we do use the (R) symbol >> for "FreeBSD" itself. Not using it for the other trademarks in this >> context might be misunderstood in claiming that they are free. THAT >> could bring us into heavy trouble, so I think it's a good idea to >> place a (R) resp. (TM) beneath the respecitve name. If we do THAT we >> should spell the trademarks correctly, because with (R) resp. (TM) we >> indicate that the actually used term is legally protected; and THIS >> is only right for the correctly spelled trademark. >> >> So, in the end, if nobody as another advice, I will modify the >> processor-architecture trademarks to the "correct" spelling and add a >> (R) resp. (TM). The aesthetic result doesn't make me happy, but Remko >> is right I fear. >> >> Best regards, >> Peer >> >> BTW: what about the FreeBSD website? Is there a specific "trademark >> policy"? (not about "FreeBSD"[TM] itself but about the cited >> trademarks?) >> >> >>> Hello Peer, >>> >>> You are doing a great job, so first of all a big thank you. >>> >>> I read/looked at the images and they are great, but ofcourse i am the >>> nagging user :) and wanted to say, please look at the trademarks etc >>> for AMD64 for example, i think it is written uppercase and it might use >>> a AMD64[tm] or something from the AMD company. It could give you a lot >>> of problems if there are registered trademarks and you do not use them >>> (which is sad, but reality :( ). >>> >>> Apart from that: GREAT keep it up! >>> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-advocacy-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >