From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Sep 8 23:29:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from users.anet-stl.com (users.anet-stl.com [209.145.150.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF2A114CFF for ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 23:29:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doogie@anet-stl.com) Received: from x (rhea.jyoung.accessus.net [207.206.158.210] (may be forged)) by users.anet-stl.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA90027; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 01:29:10 -0500 (CDT) From: "Jason Young" To: "Daniel O'Connor" Cc: , , "Gustavo V G C Rios" Subject: RE: CS Project Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 01:15:22 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > I think the idea (of a procfs ps) was shot down on the > lists some time > > ago because ps needs to retain the ability to look at > the process list > > in a kernel coredump. IMHO that's a lot of messy kvm > groveling and > > associated kernel-to-userland sync dependencies, just to > cater to the > > (generous figure) 0.5% of the people out there who have > 1) a crashing > > FreeBSD box and 2) the expertise and the will to debug > the crash dump. > > I think that issue needs to be revisited somehow. > > Well.. I do use crash dumps, but rarely use ps on them.. > Even so you could have > 2 implementations of ps, or a ps which allows you to > compile in a different > 'back end'. That way you can use either easily. I concur; those were my thoughts exactly. > > Unfortunately I don't have my proposal written in diff(1) at the > > moment, but writing all this out makes me really want to > go ahead and > > do it. Then again, somebody DID ask for a CS project. :) > > Heh :) Say, when is babelfish going to put up an English->diff(1) translator? Would make things a hell of a lot easier around here! :> Jason Young accessUS Chief Network Engineer To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message