Date: 28 Jul 2002 01:47:31 +0100 From: Stacey Roberts <stacey@Demon.vickiandstacey.com> To: Joe Marcus Clarke <marcus@marcuscom.com> Cc: sroberts@dsl.pipex.com, Maxime Romano <verbophobe@hotmail.com>, freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Recompiled Sawfish, now startx works only for root WAS [Re: Newly instalu esaEvitar ecd dee Message-ID: <1027817252.33439.12.camel@Demon.vickiandstacey.com> In-Reply-To: <1027809695.48261.45.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> References: <F125OpoUyE6ZnFDenr30002671c@hotmail.com> <1027780596.76796.9.camel@Demon.vickiandstacey.com> <1027790105.46963.3.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <1027798187.32700.3.camel@Demon.vickiandstacey.com> <1027802981.48261.3.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <1027807293.32700.25.camel@Demon.vickiandstacey.com> <1027804772.48261.23.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <1027811128.32700.44.camel@Demon.vickiandstacey.com> <1027807773.48261.41.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <1027813188.33191.11.camel@Demon.vickiandstacey.com> <1027809695.48261.45.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com>
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Hi Joe, Just a couple of points here after configuring Sawfish and the mouse:- 1] The I am unable to move a window (eg Evolution) by left-click + hold the window bar (at the top) and drag the window to another point on screen. 2] Scrolling up and down a window (eg gnome terminal) by left-click + hold and dragging up and down. Its much better now, but I'm hoping that the above two issues are known, and as such, have some procedures for getting around them. Thanks for the time. Stacey =20 On Sat, 2002-07-27 at 23:41, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: > On Sat, 2002-07-27 at 19:39, Stacey Roberts wrote: > > Joe.., you're a DUDE! > >=20 > > That's sorted out the Sawfish issue for me wholesale! All appears fine > > now with Sawfish, and I was able to run the Sawfish configuration tool > > and set things up as I prefer. > >=20 > > Do you think that it was down to wrong permissions on Sawfish dirs that > > caused my problems? >=20 > Yes. >=20 > >=20 > > On another note. I'll be doing the following now: > >=20 > > 1] Edit ~/.xinitrc (I presume I don't have to exit from X) to include: > > exec /usr/X11R6/bin/gnome-session >=20 > Nope. >=20 > >=20 > > 2] Exit from X > >=20 > > 3] Edit /etc/X11/XF86Config to include these options for the 2 button > > mouse: > >=20 > > Section "InputDevice" > > Identifier "Mouse0" > > Driver "mouse" > > Option "Protocol" "auto" > > Option "Device" "/dev/mouse" > > Option "Emulate3Buttons" > > EndSection > >=20 > > 4] Edit /etc/rc.conf to include:=20 > > moused_enable=3D"YES" > > moused_flags=3D"-3" > >=20 > > 5] As non-root user, run moused -p /dev/psm0 -t auto -3 >=20 > moused should run as root. >=20 > >=20 > > Please let me know the above looks okay for what is required for the > > mouse to work okay: > >=20 > > Thanks again for all of your patience, and willingness to help! >=20 > No problem. >=20 > Joe >=20 > >=20 > > Stacey > >=20 > > On Sat, 2002-07-27 at 23:09, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: > > > On Sat, 2002-07-27 at 19:05, Stacey Roberts wrote: > > > > Hi Joe, > > > > Okay, let me make sure I have this procedure down correct here: > > > > 1] Log off from X > > > > 2] su to root > > > > 3] Delete (as root) /tmp/.sawfish-stacey > > >=20 > > > 3.25] Delete _all_ /tmp/.sawfish* directories > > > 3.5] Exit from su back to user stacey > > >=20 > > > > 4] Run "startx" to log into X again > > > > 5] I should now be able to configure Sawfish in gnomecontrolcenter > > >=20 > > > Yes, if you do the steps I listed above. > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > > > I'm not sure what you meant by ensuring that I use Xwrapper to star= t X. > > > > I only use what I've installed (the wrapper port) in order to use > > > > "startx" to start X > > >=20 > > > When I say Xwrapper, I mean the wrapper port. > > >=20 > > > Joe > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > > > Please let me know if there's some chance I'm not using the correct > > > > procedure here. > > > >=20 > > > > Stacey > > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > > > On Sat, 2002-07-27 at 22:19, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: > > > > > On Sat, 2002-07-27 at 18:01, Stacey Roberts wrote: > > > > > > Hi Joe, > > > > > > I've not got copy paste working with my mouse here at the mo= ment > > > > > > working on that as well :-( but I'll type the output here: > > > > >=20 > > > > > Make sure you're using moused, and have your protocol in your XF8= 6Config > > > > > file set to Auto. If the button is only a two-button mouse, make= sure > > > > > you're starting moused with the -3 flag, and you have the correct > > > > > Emulate3Buttons option set for your mouse in XF86Config. > > > > >=20 > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > As non-root user: > > > > > > bash-2.05a$ /usr/X11R6/bin/sawfish-ui > > > > > > error: can't connect to socket > > > > > > /tmp/.sawfish-stacey/<host>.mydomainname.com:0.0 > > > > > > *** Error: can't connect to sawfish on display, :0 > > > > >=20 > > > > > Does /tmp/.sawfish-stacey/ exist? What are the permissions? How= about > > > > > the <host>.mydomainname.com:0.0 socket? > > > > >=20 > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > As root after the above failure: > > > > > > # /usr/X11R6/bin/sawfish-ui > > > > > > GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager: > > > > > > Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication pr= otocols > > > > > > specified are supported and host-based authentication failed. > > > > > > error: can't connect to socket > > > > > > /tmp/.sawfish-stacey/<host>.mydomainname.com:0.0 > > > > > > *** Error: can't connect to sawfish on display, :0 > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > Hope this proves helpful. > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > About your other e-mail concerning the contents of ~/.xinitrc, = what I > > > > > > have in the file is only what's written in the FBSD Handbook 2n= d Ed Pg > > > > > > 137 > > > > >=20 > > > > > The handbook could use an update. Starting gnome-session with ex= ec > > > > > greatly speeds things up when closing X. > > > > >=20 > > > > > Joe > > > > >=20 > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > Stacey > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > On Sat, 2002-07-27 at 21:49, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: > > > > > > > On Sat, 2002-07-27 at 15:29, Stacey Roberts wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Joe, > > > > > > > > I ran the cmds you suggested as prescribed. One thing to= mention: > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > For the two commands: > > > > > > > > killall gconfd-1 > > > > > > > > killall gconfd-2 > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > I got "no matching process found" returned. > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > On typing startx, sound now appears to be working, but I am= still unable > > > > > > > > to configure Sawfish: Same "beep", nothing happens. > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > Some progress though., whatdya think? > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > Run /usr/X11R6/bin/sawfish-ui, and send me the output. > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > Joe > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > Stacey > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > On Sat, 2002-07-27 at 18:15, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 2002-07-27 at 10:36, Stacey Roberts wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi Maxime > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for getting back to me. > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > I got your message and advise about configuring Sawfish= , but its really > > > > > > > > > > strange here. > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > When I installed gnome, I didn't select any other windo= w manager (as I > > > > > > > > > > knew that Sawfish is installed as the default window ma= nager anyways. I > > > > > > > > > > was able to run the "Configure Sawfish Window Manager" = tool as root > > > > > > > > > > after recompiling Sawfish (as per Joe Marcus Clarke's a= dvisory), but I > > > > > > > > > > am not able to do so as a non-root user. > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > I get the same "beep" noise and nothing happens. > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > Sawfish is selected as "current" in the gnomecontrolcen= ter panel when I > > > > > > > > > > start it, so its already running! > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > If there is any log / or config files that would assist= you, do ask and > > > > > > > > > > I'll get that off to you. > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > Shut all X things down. Then run the following as root: > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > killall esd > > > > > > > > > killall oafd > > > > > > > > > killall gconfd-1 > > > > > > > > > killall gconfd-2 > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > rm -rf /tmp/.sawfish* > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > Then start up X again as a non-root user. Things should = work for you. > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > Joe > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again for the reply. > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > Stacey > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 2002-07-27 at 14:23, Maxime Romano wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >From: <sroberts@dsl.pipex.com> > > > > > > > > > > > >To: Maxime Romano <verbophobe@hotmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > >CC: <sroberts@dsl.pipex.com>, <freebsd-gnome@freebsd= .org> > > > > > > > > > > > >Subject: Re: Recompiled Sawfish, now startx works on= ly for root WAS [Re:=20 > > > > > > > > > > > >Newly installed > > > > > > > > > > > >Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 11:39:35 +0100 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Hi Maxime, > > > > > > > > > > > > That's worked for! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >However, I'm back to my original problem: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >"Sawfish not running", when trying to configure Sawf= ish as ordinary user. > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > Sawfish must be running *before* you can configure it= . > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Running "sawfish" at cli returns: "You can only run = one window manager" > > > > > > > > > > > You have to kill your current window manager, and sta= rt sawfish quickly, or=20 > > > > > > > > > > > else the old window manager might kick in and try to = take over again. > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > Try something like "killall metacity;killall enlighte= nment;killall=20 > > > > > > > > > > > sawfish;killall twm;sawfish 1&- 2&- 3&- &" That ough= ta fix everthing up. > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > -Maxime Romano > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Stacey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Quoting Maxime Romano <verbophobe@hotmail.com>: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No, no! To use startx, your X server must be SUI= D root! Do to that, > > > > > > > > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > > > > > > chmod +s /usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86 as root and you'r= e set. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (Oh, and try to set the permissions on XFree86.0.= log to what they were. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Something might break.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Maxime Romano > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: <sroberts@dsl.pipex.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >To: robert Backhaus <robbakfreebsd@yahoo.co.uk> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >CC: Joe Marcus Clarke <marcus@marcuscom.com>,Fre= eBSD User Questions > > > > > > > > > > > > > List > > > > > > > > > > > > > ><freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>,<freebsd-gnome@F= reeBSD.ORG> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Subject: Re: Recompiled Sawfish, now startx work= s only for root WAS > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Re: > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Newly installed 4.6Stable+gnome1.4x =3D Broken S= awfish] > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 10:53:27 +0100 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Hi Robert, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I did as you suggested, but that only gives = me a new error: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Fatal server error: > > > > > > > > > > > > > >xf86OpenConsole: server must be suid root > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Silly question, how do I get the permissions to = revert back to what > > > > > > > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > > > > > >were: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >"rw r r root wheel" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >???? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Stacey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Quoting robert Backhaus <robbakfreebsd@yahoo.co.= uk>: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- sroberts@dsl.pipex.com wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Joe, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I recompiled Sawfish, but now startx onl= y works > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for root. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For each user, there already exists the .xi= nitrc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > file > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with: /usr/X11R6/bin/gnome-session being th= e only > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > line in there. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The error I get is: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fatal Server Error: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cannnot open log file /var/log/XFree86.0.lo= g > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please help me with this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stacey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Check the ownership of /var/log/Free86.0.log > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ls /var/log/XFree86.0.log > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it should be something like rwx_w__w_ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > do chmod a+w /var/log//XFree86.0.log > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Robert Backhaus > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________= _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! 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