From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jun 17 13:52:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA06744 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 13:52:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA06738 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 13:52:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id WAA10067; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 22:52:04 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA19514; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 22:34:09 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19970617223408.HF45226@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 22:34:08 +0200 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: dennis@etinc.com (dennis) Cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tar hangs 2.2.x system References: <3.0.32.19970617110435.00afb750@etinc.com> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970617110435.00afb750@etinc.com>; from dennis on Jun 17, 1997 11:04:38 -0400 Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As dennis wrote: > >Sorry for shouting, but from some non-newbie like dennis, i would have > >expected to know this. I'm repeating this over and over again to my > >clients on any Unix course i'm teaching. > Perhaps true, but in the commercial world you cant instantaneously > change all of your documents and procedures to fix something that > has worked since the beginning of time. They both SHOULD work, and > changing a basic procedure is quite painful. Sure, they should work. However, every system except Linux has raw devices, and they _always_ have been the first choice for such work. Don't blame us if you started with the wrong way (for whatever reason). You wouldn't suffer from the bug now otherwise. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-)