From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 13 19:36:55 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E47CF10656B2; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 19:36:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Received: from citadel.icyb.net.ua (citadel.icyb.net.ua [212.40.38.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 039258FC12; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 19:36:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from porto.topspin.kiev.ua (porto-e.starpoint.kiev.ua [212.40.38.100]) by citadel.icyb.net.ua (8.8.8p3/ICyb-2.3exp) with ESMTP id VAA16439; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 21:36:49 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Received: from localhost.topspin.kiev.ua ([127.0.0.1]) by porto.topspin.kiev.ua with esmtp (Exim 4.34 (FreeBSD)) id 1PHLu5-000NSA-Lx; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 21:36:49 +0200 Message-ID: <4CDEE881.201@icyb.net.ua> Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 21:35:29 +0200 From: Andriy Gapon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101029 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Linimon References: <4CD7C15D.2010203@icyb.net.ua> <20101108150306.GB17517@wep4035.physik.uni-wuerzburg.de> <4CD8132D.9090902@icyb.net.ua> <20101113192506.GC29660@lonesome.com> In-Reply-To: <20101113192506.GC29660@lonesome.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Alexey Shuvaev , freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: xorg-server 1.7.7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 19:36:56 -0000 on 13/11/2010 21:25 Mark Linimon said the following: > There's this whole "testing" thing :-) So, I thought taht I contributed one test report already :-) > xorg seems to have an amazing ability to introduce regressions, especially > in edge cases/older hardware. Each of the last N updates has been preceded > by a lot of staging/testing, and even so, created a lot of work to clean > everything up. I think that you refer to upgrades of the "Xorg bundle" as a whole. Not sure if we've had any problems like that when upgrading between minor versions of a single module, even such as xorg server. > So, in theory, it's easy, but in practice, it requires someone(s) with a lot > of time and dedication. > > We certainly need one or more such people right now! I agree, but I am not sure how in the ports land we do an application testing in general. That is, I am sure there will be a lot of testers if the port update is actually committed :-) but I am not sure how to test it in advance (given all the possible hardware and software configurations). -- Andriy Gapon